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Poverty to Prosperity | Brandon Bluenotes
When Brandon's grandmother's card declined at the grocery store and another man stepped in to pay for their food, something shifted inside him. "From that day on, I will make sure no other man ever allows or has to make sure that me and my family eat," he recalls with unmistakable conviction. This watershed moment launched a journey from barbershop apprentice to real estate mogul with over 400 deals completed and thousands of students coached.
What makes this conversation extraordinary isn't just Brandon's financial success, but his raw honesty about the spiritual and mindset transformations that preceded it. He describes how God gave him a "nausea" that compelled him to share information rather than hoard it, contradicting the conventional wisdom that successful strategies should be kept secret.
Perhaps most powerful is Brandon's perspective on a recent incarceration following an altercation. Rather than viewing it as a setback, he interpreted it as divine realignment when he had begun taking success for granted. "Just as quickly as God gave it to you, God can take it away," he reflects, explaining how this experience deepened his understanding of purpose beyond material success.
Now leveraging AI to revolutionize real estate wholesaling, Brandon explains how technology can help beginners enter the market without quitting their jobs or risking financial stability. Through selective discipline, opportunity recognition, and relationship building, he demonstrates a pathway to success that transforms not just bank accounts but character.
As Brandon puts it: "It doesn't take a long time to make a lot of money. It just takes a long time becoming a person willing to do it." This episode isn't just about real estate strategy—it's about becoming someone capable of sustaining success while creating lasting impact for others.
So it ended up being bro, where God just gave me this, this nausea. He made me so nauseous about throwing up all the information that I was learning.
Speaker 2:That's a good way to put it.
Speaker 1:And it was like I couldn't keep my mouth shut about what I was doing.
Speaker 2:So what have you found to work with you in real estate?
Speaker 1:So I said you know what there has to be another way that I can get into real estate without you know being that control. So I started to look into what's called wholesaling real estate and that's how I ran across that and since then, man, it's been. It's been what's changed my life forever. You know, I've coached now over thousands of students. I've done a little over 400 deals, so through those profits I've been able to do tremendous things. I've been able to now learn how to flip and fix and flip, you know, do creative deals, loan money.
Speaker 2:Basically, I'm vertically integrated into the whole real estate side, like what are some of the intangibles that came out of you being locked up?
Speaker 1:So, first and foremost is understanding that just as quickly as God gave it to you, god can take it away, and I started to do things where it's like man. You know what, if I had to sit behind those bars for 15 years? Besides Gucci, louis, rolexes and a bunch of followers and cash in my bank account, what did I actually leave behind from my bank?
Speaker 2:What's up y'all? Welcome to another episode of the Honor Pursuit Podcast. We connect with entrepreneurs, business people, movers and shakers. Today's episode is a spicy one because this individual is someone that I connected with a couple of years ago, and I was actually at a mastermind and he was speaking and he definitely stood out to me. He stood out to me from all ways and one and it was really like how he was carrying himself, and not only how he was carrying himself, but the information he was giving to people. And this is someone that listen I don't know if he's on the fashion side, I don't know if he's on the business side. You know what I'm saying, but he gets busy on both sides, and I was in Orlando. I was in Orlando with my guy, Jay Monopoly, who's a mutual friend of ours. Jay put on this event and he definitely stood out, bro. So, Brandon, Appreciate you, brother.
Speaker 1:Welcome to the podcast, bro, thank you. Thank you so much for having me, bro, long time coming. Yeah, I'm just excited to be here and just share my story and give value to the people, to be able to go ahead and also take their journey on and progress and do something positive and have a good impact on other people as well.
Speaker 2:So, bro, when I looked at our thread, you had me on red for a minute. Damn, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:That's my fault.
Speaker 2:Had me on red for a minute, bro, so let me just ask you this what made you want to uh, come on the pod? Why is now the time?
Speaker 1:um. So I mean, we were just talking about this, obviously, before we got on here, right, god's time, not yours time, not your time, um. But in all honesty, um, I saw somebody else that you, you know, went ahead and did a podcast with yeah and uh, you like you the pod goat, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Uh, out here, out here in miami, yeah, um. So you know, at the same time, you look like you the pod goat, you know what I'm saying, out here in Miami. So, you know, at the same time, I was like you know, let me go and tap in with him. And obviously I saw that you hit me up. And then, when you told me about the event I was like oh, now I remember.
Speaker 1:So it kind of put two and two together. But you know, it's all about connections and sometimes it's just how it goes, it's just timing. So, like I said, just really excited to be here, really excited to make it happen, and for some odd reason God didn't want me to do it then, but obviously he wanted us to do it now.
Speaker 2:So let me ask you this because I think that's what you just said. Now you said maybe God didn't want us to do it then, but maybe now's the time. So last week I got baptized and before I got baptized, a couple of people that I know that have been baptized. Yeah, or maybe they've been on their walk with God, maybe a little bit more intentionally than me at the time, or they've been on it a little longer. Whatever the case may be, they was like yo when you get baptized, watch how your life change.
Speaker 2:Like they were, like I could feel it, like they meant that yeah, yeah, it was like just watch, right, yeah, and I'm not saying I didn't believe them, but like the conviction was there, yeah. And then I'm like I'm like, well, what am I watching for in my mind? I'm like you know what I'm saying, but it's been, it's been um, it's been six days, it's been about six days and just this week alone I could say I probably made the most money I've made in a week. You know what I'm saying Ever this week. And certain individuals I feel like I've been connected to this week. You know what I mean. Let's say you're one of them this week yeah, you know what I mean. Let's say you're one of them. Relationships yeah, 100%. So I think that and I believe if you don't have a relationship with God, I don't think you would understand. I don't think you would understand.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's one of those things, like you just said, that you just kind of feel it. Yeah, and that's where my thing came from. Sponsored by God, I started to do things and I started to see my life just transform. And when I first started my coaching business, I didn't call it a coaching business, I was just literally putting out information about me starting my real estate journey. And it was crazy, because I come from the era or the time where it's like you learn something and it's working for you. I'm not telling nobody else, why would I?
Speaker 2:tell you how I'm making money Right.
Speaker 1:So it ended up being bro, where God just gave me this, this nausea. He made me so nauseous about throwing up all the information that I was learning.
Speaker 2:That's a good way to put it.
Speaker 1:And it was like I couldn't keep my mouth shut about what I was doing. And it was crazy because a lot of the times, you know, I have family and this is just how I was raised like, hey, if something's going good for you, don't tell everybody. You're gonna have that negative energy, you know you're gonna have people mess up your vibe, you know it may not go well for you, whatever. And it's just. I had that emotion where it was just every time I did something good or I was making a step forward, it was like I had to go strictly to the camera right, like I went from MySpace bro to Instagram. So I had a whole period of my lifetime where I didn't have no social media. And essentially, after I started looking at my life and I started coaching people and telling people, there were some people that really took action, followed the framework and it worked. But then there was some other people that followed the framework and it didn't work for them and I was like what's up?
Speaker 1:Guys, listen, if you want to go ahead and get started in real estate without the hassle of going ahead and quitting your job, right now I'm actually hosting masterclasses on Thursday and Sundays where I'm going to be showing you exactly how to go ahead and leverage AI to do most of the work.
Speaker 1:Now, the cool thing is that those days of driving around looking for ugly properties or calling hundreds and thousands of people are close to over because of AI. So, once again, if you're interested in getting started in real estate and know this isn't fixing the flip and it's not Airbnb or having a rental portfolio or having a fix and flip, go ahead and go to the link on my bio at wwwairealestatemasterclasscom. I'm going to be showing you guys exactly the steps from A to Z to go ahead and get it started. Make sure you tap in, let's get it. I don't know what to tell you. It worked for me and it keeps working for me, and that's where it came about, where, if you look at anybody's life man, you'll start to figure out how blessed we are and how we're all sponsored by God. It's not luck, right, conviction and those things that are happening to you. That person won't really be able to know until they go through it.
Speaker 2:No, that's a fact, you know. I'm saying I can't even explain it to him. Yeah, it's just one of those things that you, you just know you feel it like.
Speaker 1:you feel like you glowing, yeah, and you feel like, at the same time not not a form of like being invincible, but you feel like you have protection and you feel like, as long as you're moving towards a positive trajectory because a lot of times people got to understand, bro, is that speed is not important, just direction. And right now you've directed your life in a positive way, where you said you know what I'm going to align myself with God and anybody aligns herself with, obviously, what we believe in and how we should live our lives. And, as you're seeing it right now, in one week you've made the most money. I mean, I know you was in Atlanta yesterday, now today you in Miami.
Speaker 2:I was trapped in Atlanta yesterday. Yeah, and shout out to Rob. We just met this guy, rob, who chartered Jets. I'm telling you, if I would have met him like 48 hours earlier, I would not have been stuck in Atlanta, not have been stuck in Atlanta. But like you shared, and it's not even you know, I'm just using. When I say the money for people, I'm just saying that right, just to not even to make anyone feel a way. I'm just giving y'all something that might be tangible, because it's another thing. So one of my biggest things is also relationship capital. So like getting in certain rooms building with certain individuals sitting down, having opportunities to converse, or just seeing how things are being aligned and moving, those are also things that are also happening. But when you say money, it gets people's attention.
Speaker 1:So they can pay attention to that Rob Markman and I wanted to add to that. You were like man. I don't know if you're on the business side or the fashion side. Once again, I'm where it is because I know that I'm in competition with Lamborghinis, with girls twerking on Instagram and, at the end of the day, this is a resume to be able to capture that one person.
Speaker 1:That person that was me five, six years ago, that all I was doing was trying to learn and trying to follow what rappers did, or trying to always be in the mix of what was going on in the culture. And if it wasn't for that one person that just captured my attention because they talked about success and they looked like me I probably wouldn't have been here today.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, bro, that's really how I felt when I seen you the first time. Right, like you said, you wear what you have on as a form of marketing. Yeah, right, form of marketing. So to me it doesn't matter, right, of course, to me, now, other people, certain things are going To me. Now other people, certain things are going to pick up. Now, there obviously are certain things I'm going to gravitate towards.
Speaker 2:The reason why I'm saying this is because when I saw you a couple years ago, it wasn't necessarily what you had on that stood out. I feel like it was the energy, and then the information, and then, obviously, the presentation. Right, I feel like one of the main things that people tend to not lean more into, yeah, is speaking. So if you have value, which you do, yeah, and you're able to package that value up and convey that value clearly and concisely, with confidence and conviction, and you can do it in front of people yeah, you know we're doing it on a podcast, but if you do it in an elevated fashion, like on a stage, you're going to be able to connect with individuals. 100%. Right, you're passing off your knowledge base in real time for someone to capture and catch. So, for me when I went to Orlando and and um, I saw, I think it was you um the other brandon method.
Speaker 2:Okay, right, mad, brandon's and brandon's exactly, yeah yeah, facts, um, y'all both stood out to me. He stood out because he he just his charisma and and his energy his voice is a little higher, yeah, but to me it was a lot of stuff that you were sharing, that I was like yo, there's something about this dude. So I followed you right away and I seen you again live at another one of Jay's events. I think this one was in Miami. It might have been right before I moved here, yeah. So it was like maybe a little over two years ago, yeah. And then obviously, I've been following you online. So you talked about what you're doing in real estate. So, for those that are not really privy to how you've really been successful in the space in which you've been teaching people, how can you simply break that down? Because real estate is vast.
Speaker 2:So there's so many different ways to do a deal On the residential side, the commercial side, wholesale subject to. You know what I'm saying Tax deeds, buy land, build, develop. There's so many different ways for you to navigate in this space. So what have you found to work with you in real estate?
Speaker 1:I mean, honestly, I think it's what gathers a lot of people that are successful. I just found the best way to be able to connect to people that have a major problem and I think that, you know, I wouldn't have stumbled upon that if it wasn't for becoming a realtor. So, essentially, what ended up happening was that I, uh, I was doing, you know, the whole american dream. I would just say more like the immigrant dream, right? Um, because a lot of times we're indoctrinated to work multiple jobs. So my family, I started off basically as an apprentice barber, so I used to clean the barber shop and then I wanted to learn how to cut hair. I want to stay fresh. I was like you know what, every time I asked my mom in high school, middle school, can I get something for my haircut or whatever it was always are going up. So I said you know what, let me just learn how to cut hair, because I didn't know what I wanted to do with my life. That was definitely pre-Miami prices. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:You wouldn't have had no haircut out here.
Speaker 1:So after that it ended up being that I started to look at what's called my earning capacity and I started to look around and most of the barbers no, knock on the barbers. I love the barber industry. I feel like it's an art, I feel like it's definitely a great career. But I started to notice that I had to spend more time, either to make more money, to put more hours in, or, b I had to go ahead and up my prices. But it's very difficult to up your prices if your competitors are right next to you, right, and it's very hard, if you're trying to get away from that, to be able to spend more time cutting hair to make more money, if you want to go and spend more time with your family. So then I looked at the third option, which was essentially becoming an owner, but most barbershops that I went to the owner was still cutting hair. So I started to look at how much money could I really make and I honestly had like a little bottleneck and I said you know what, let me just try the college thing out. So I went part-time with that only cut Friday, saturday, sunday.
Speaker 1:Then after that I started going to community college and, just like a lot of people. I didn't know what I wanted to do and in my little city, in Orlando, basically a lot of people that got a job at the hospital because the newer hospital was really up and coming and it was good. You kind of made it. So I started volunteering and I started going to school to become a nurse. So I'm doing my AA, my prereqs and all that good stuff, or at least trying to and um, after four months of volunteering at the hospital, they hired me as a patient transporter making 9.50 an hour, and I was happy man, I was like man, I got scrubs, I got a badge, I gotta come into work, I got benefits, right, and this is what society does to keep you all indoctrinated to their system, because a lot of people they won't quit their job because of benefits, because of dental, because of the pension and the 401k whatever it is, and they don't realize they can just get their own benefits.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a whole bunch of scams. So it ended up being that I was going to community college Tuesday, thursday, I was working at the hospital Monday, wednesday, and then I was working at home with mom and grandma. I was raised by two single women and it ended up being that one day, bro, I'm at Publix and my grandma and I were doing some groceries. I'm like 20, maybe I'm 20, I think 25, 24, maybe 225, around there and she goes to swipe the card, the groceries, and it declines. And the guy behind me, he's like, oh, so I'll take care of it. And he ends up paying for the groceries in front of me and my grandmother and I said, from this day on, I will make sure that no other man ever allows to go to make sure that me and my family eat.
Speaker 1:And I started to go online and try to figure out the best way to do things. How old were you at the time? I was like 24, turning 25. Oh, yeah, so you was a young man for real. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So my dad always did real estate and I used to talk to him here and on. I met my dad when I was 13. So it was like one of those things where I was like you know what, let me just kind of try that out. And I was seeing everybody anybody that goes into real estate you know it's money. So I went, became a realtor Once again, failed at that. I was a realtor for a whole year, couldn't get anybody to let me list a property or do any of that stuff.
Speaker 1:And I said you know what, there has to be another way, right. And I felt like this was where life was kind of changing for me, because I read the book Rich Dad, poor Dad, but not only that. I also read Outwitting the Devil, which is one of my favorite books, and I started to understand that most people, the reason why they're not successful is because they cannot focus on one thing and they quit too early. It's kind of like having a six pack, right, I mean everybody goes to the gym, but it doesn't mean everybody has a six pack, right, but most people don't put in enough work to see the results. So I said you know what? There has to be another way that I can get into real estate without you know being that control. So I started to look into what's called wholesaling real estate and that's how I ran across that and since then, man, it's been, it's been what's changed my life forever.
Speaker 1:You know I've coached now over thousands of students, I've done a little over 400 deals and you know it's been a blessing, you know, to be able to do this.
Speaker 1:So what I teach is real estate wholesaling, where you just find distressed property with an attached motivation, somebody that may be going through a divorce or somebody inherits a property or whatever the case may be we go ahead and offer them a current condition, price offer and at that point in time we just middleman the fee so we sell that contract to somebody else. So through those profits I've been able to do tremendous things. I've been able to now learn how to fix and flip, do creative deals, loan money. Basically, I'm vertically integrated into the whole real estate side. And I learned basically for free, because I also remember attending a seminar at Holiday Inn where they were teaching the fix and flip joint for $15,000. And the guy comes out in the Burlington suit you know what I'm saying and he's like hey, you want to come by. So it's just been a blessing because I feel like all roads lead to real estate.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure I mean yo, people need somewhere to live. We're in a building right now, exactly Right. This is a commercial real estate. Build them Exactly Right. So at the end of the day, if the owner came through some trouble times or he had to make a move, you were privy to that. That's an opportunity. You know what I'm saying? Who were you at that time? And then, how are you different now?
Speaker 1:Yeah, man. So at that time I mean let's talk about God's timing, right. I mean God will take a nobody in front of everybody and turn them into somebody. He'll put you back together in front of everybody that ever broke you.
Speaker 1:Growing up, I was a redheaded stepchild. I was the one I got with my girl when I was 16 years old Family saying, oh, they're going to get pregnant soon. I got expelled from two high schools and I used to be in trouble all the time. So it was crazy because my life went from literally changing I wouldn't say overnight, but it was my mindset that I said you know what? I no longer want to be this person. I no longer want to change or chase this persona of me being this hurt boy in the world because my dad is not around and I'm being raised by a single mom.
Speaker 1:And once I started to change how I looked at things and how I perceive things, things started to go ahead and just get better for me. But I thank God because if I would have got success before that time, I would have blew it all away, because I didn't have the mindset, I didn't have the capacity to understand that this isn't just about you and I. It's about how we put other people on and how we're able to put other people in position to do better. I was basically just living in this whole facade of I need to get what's mine, and I think the biggest thing that really changed me, bro, is that I had to have that selfish moment with myself. I had to be able to cut the people off at the limb, the people that didn't understand my vision, the people that unfortunately didn't know what I was doing. I had to be able to say you know what this is going to be my selfish time to focus on me so I can come back and feed the village.
Speaker 1:For example, if you're on a plane and it's going down the oxygen mask, come down. They say you got to put on your oxygen mask on first before you go ahead and help anybody else. So in a world of poverty at the same time, how can you help anybody if you're not progressing towards any steps? It's just the blind leading the blind, right? Kids, kids versus kids. So my selfish moment was literally what changed for me, and then my rich dad ended up coming along later on in life, which was a mentor to me, and it wouldn't have never happened if it wasn't for my mindset. And I know it's really, really cliche because people tell me hey, how did you get, how did you get here? But mindset is what changed everything. And not only that, it's also understanding that relationships are super important, like super important.
Speaker 2:And if I can just get in front of 10 people a day, a week, whatever the case may be, and have new conversations, I promise you I can always make money. That's an interesting perspective, bro, because, like you said, the mindset is cliche. Yeah, there's tons of people that are probably tuned in watching, listening, and obviously, people that you know. Yeah, how does one go towards changing their mindset? Because this is the thing, right? So you mentioned the success that you've been able to accomplish and and what people perceived. Yeah, but people want that right now. Yeah, they want it now. So they're gonna see, they're gonna see the presentation, they're gonna see your instagram bio, gonna see you know how, how you come across, how you speak about it and obviously, your success, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but they want it right now yeah, but what are the steps that one may need to go to if they are serious about changing their mindset? And then what does that actually mean? Yeah, because I want people to understand, like the things that you may need to not only pursue but give up or sacrifice or limit if you're really looking to rebuild or or have a different mindset, because you can't just go out and look to acquire something thinking the same way that you think yeah, no, it's not gonna be able to hold on to it yeah.
Speaker 1:So I mean I think, first and foremost, let's go ahead and talk about right what mindset is right. If you break down the mindset, it's, your mind is already set right. So from little kids, our parents have shown us how to become these people and when our mind has been set a certain way. So, for example, I don't know about your background, but I know you say you're from Boston but, like growing up, I didn't know financial literacy. I wasn't taught credit. Nobody in my immediate family had home ownership. I come from Queens, new York, where all me and my cousins we out of the same apartment. So you have to understand that when your eyes aren't horizoned into bigger and better things, it's not your fault, but it is your fault if you keep choosing to not look for that. So you have to really go ahead and reset your mindset to understand that there's different things out there. There's bigger things than just your little city in Atlanta or your little city in Houston or just Queens or the Bronx. You got to look at the horizon and how you can really get ahead. So what I learned, brent, is going to be that opportunity is the most expensive thing in life. So every time that you miss an opportunity. That's your trip. And I noticed that every time that I saw afterwards that I saw an abandoned house, I could have been making money. It's just I didn't know how to identify that opportunity. So you have to be in a sense an opportunist to understand that's the way to make money or that's the way to be able to solve a problem, a big problem, and at that point in time I can get paid for that value Right. So now means no opportunity wasted.
Speaker 1:And I think a lot of times if you want to go ahead and get started right now, you have to really go ahead and understand what's called selective discipline. I got friends that in the gym they diet, gym Great, but financially they make no money. So they dialed in on certain things. I know people that, yo, what's tonight, Saturday? Yeah bro, you got to hit this joint and then go to that club. And then they know the nightlife. Then there's some people that are really successful but they're really bad with their food habits, right. So you have to understand that everything that you do is your fault and you get what you deserve. If you go ahead and look at your phone and that bank account say negative $38, that was your fault because you had an opportunity to make money today, but you also spent more than what you made, right? If you look in the mirror, right, and you just upset with how you are, how you, whatever your case may be, you get what you deserve.
Speaker 1:So I'm a big believer in really going ahead and having an action plan, and that's what I see most young entrepreneurs having is that they don't have an action plan. They say they want to go ahead and start a t-shirt business and the first step, they think, is getting an LLC and getting business cards Without understanding how you're going to get to that. Maybe that first client? How are you going to get to that? Maybe that first client, right? How are you going to get to that $1,000 a month, right? How are you going to you know what is the website, what is the logo, what is going to be your unique selling point to be able to outbeat your competitors, right? So number one, once again, is identifying opportunities and really looking at the earning capacity to say, okay, I want to jump in this field because this field is unlimited and I can make as much money as I want to. Number two is talking to yourself and holding yourself responsible and understanding. Listen, I need to have selective discipline and knowing that, even though it's Memorial Day weekend, I need to be working.
Speaker 1:Because if you look at the calendar, b right, check it out. Isn't it so crazy how there's a holiday every four to six weeks to keep people at bay from not really understanding or seeing what's going on in the workplace? 100 and so we excited about it? Yeah, so the crazy thing is right? Saint patrick's day how many irish people are really going ahead and taking off and drinking that day? Right? Cinco de mayo how many people are really mexican that are actually celebrating that right? Memorial day there's some people right now that's going to be celebrating memorial day, don't? Cinco de Mayo? How many people are really Mexican that are actually celebrating that right? Memorial Day there's some people right now that's going to be celebrating Memorial Day Don't even know what it stands for Labor Day weekend.
Speaker 1:I see people all the time right, having fun on Labor Day weekend, but they haven't worked in three months. It's Labor Day weekend, meaning that these are for the people that obviously have labored. So, if you look at it right, the holidays are built to keep us at bay, and that's what I started to understand is I'm a single. I'm a single child. Why can't Mother's Day be every day, right? Why do I have to wait for Christmas to be able to gift my family? Why can I right now, me and you, go to Poppy Steak and feast? Why do we have to wait for November 25th? So when you start to look at these things on how society keeps you at bay and how they keep you in poverty, you start to understand that these people are not for you, that you got to go ahead and be able to vet for yourself.
Speaker 1:I remember, bro, when I started getting into credit because I wanted to get into more properties, I went to Navy Federal and, off rip, they gave me $25,000. I got the flagship and I got the Amex. I went ahead and got a business credit card. I had to go through an array of problems and then they gave me $10,000. They don't want us to be business owners. They don't want us to be able to control our inner capacity. They want to keep us at bay and they understand what debt is used for, right. So that's what I would say is really getting out of this matrix and understanding that you got to get it out the mud and you have to start hanging around people that are really doing it, but doing it in their way and solving a big problem in the marketplace, and your job is to go out there and find those people.
Speaker 2:So you said you met your dad when you was 13. 13, yeah, is he still in your life?
Speaker 1:I would say, for the most part we have a decent relationship. You know, I wouldn't say that I see him as a father. I see him as a dad. You know somebody that I respect, somebody that I appreciate, that God has allowed me to have in my life. But I think that sometimes a father, to be called a father, you have to it's actions, so you were raised by your mom and your grandma, my mom and my grandmother. Those are my heroes.
Speaker 2:So I was raised by my mom and my grandmother too, and I'm a single child too. I do have brothers and sisters on my dad's side. We didn't grow up together, so I was really raised as a single child in a house full of women.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. So a lot of things that you just shared, right, and if people are listening to your meeting for the first time or they've watched your journey, there's certain things that you share. And then how you carry yourself. There's clearly a maturation process to happen. What do you think a man is? And then, when do you think you became a man? And also, where did you learn your discipline and accountability from? Because, ultimately, if your dad wasn't in your life until 13 and you don't really consider him as being a father in your life, there had to be something that occurred that contributed to you maturing. Yeah Right, and then you also decided that you know what being a man is. This, these are these things I'm going to go out and and, and you know, become these things or acquire these things these tools, yep, and I'm not going to do these other things, yeah, so so.
Speaker 2:So, what was that and when was that for you?
Speaker 1:I mean, I think that that man moment was at that supermarket where, you know, my grandmother's card declined and, you know, another man ended up paying for the groceries and at that point in time I said I would never have nobody else dictate whether me and my family eats. But I think a man is someone that understands that it's not only about them, it's about pushing the generation forward, it's about the legacy, it's about being able to lead by example and not being selfish in a way to where boo-hoo me. I think that right now in America there's a lot of masculinity. Just get down, you know I'm saying there's a lot of house husbands out here.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of people that you were saying, when becoming a man, there's certain things that you identify with. Yeah, and you talk about that maturation process and then for you it. It was at the grocery store when somebody else Rob Markman.
Speaker 1:Paid for our groceries, rob Markman.
Speaker 2:Took care of your family. Rob Markman yeah, exactly, rob Markman.
Speaker 1:And you was like. That moment was like Rob Markman, yeah, no, I mean, at that moment it clicked for me because you have to understand that right now. If you're living at home with your peoples and you're not taking advantage of the fact that you're only paying your phone bill and your car insurance, you're not trying to learn a high level skill set. That's not no manly move, right. If you're still thinking that your homies is going to be there for you and you got the game all messed up because you go into the club and try to impress people or you're trying to live day by day, that's not being a man.
Speaker 1:A man is understanding that you have purpose, that you have to make impact and that your job is to reproduce and make sure that your kids and the next generations live on in a better position than you were before. You have to lead by example, and obviously that's something that my dad wasn't there for, so I wasn't able to learn those things. But I started to learn those things as I got my gifts and my talents from from real estate wholesaling as far as becoming a coach, and I feel like every single time that somebody ends up giving me the opportunity to coach them and learn from them. Whether if it's in a free webinar or they've paid me thousands of dollars, I do feel like it's my calling to make sure that I lead as a man, to be able to say hey, you know, this is what you should do to be able to help your family, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2:No, no, that definitely makes sense.
Speaker 1:So because and not to cut you off right, but to say this too you have to understand, bro, that right now, if you have a skillset or you're good at something and you're not telling other people about it, you selfish. Because God wouldn't want that. Because right now there's going to be people watching this podcast that, if I'm not talking about my journey or maybe give them some tangible steps, they would have not got started. And in 10, 15 years, because of this podcast right here, somebody went ahead and made six, seven figures. Because that's how we were right.
Speaker 1:We went on YouTube and we saw somebody said hold on, he looked like me, he sound like me, he come from the same type of place I come from, he also in the same type of situation. Let me try this real estate wholesaling thing. Boom, it works. Then you run into him at at Aldi's or Publix. You're like man, I watched this podcast with you and B bro, and I ain't gonna lie, that's how I got started. And now you know I'm driving. I'm driving the Uris. So you have to understand that you can't be selfish. If you're good at something, you got to start talking about it. You got to start putting other people on as much as you can.
Speaker 2:Can you just have me think for a second? So, the person you are right now, everything you've accomplished thus far, you're still a young man, right? What are some of the challenges you're having now and where are you aspiring to go? Because at some point, who you are now, you wanted to become that, of course, but this is who you are now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but you're still a young man. You still got a lot of life left. You still got things like you shared with me offline. You're not a father yet. You're not married, so those are still chapters that, if that's, what you want to check.
Speaker 2:You want to cross those. So what are some of the challenge you have now as an entrepreneur? Mm-hmm, that's successful. That's leading teaching training right. That has a family. What does that look like and what's that next step?
Speaker 1:yeah, I mean, I think that that's a great question, bro, because I think it's always understanding that you got to stay on track. It's being reminded about your purpose and your goals. You see, online sometimes things can be perceptive. As you know, things are perfect and everything's going well for you, but things aren't always like that. Most of the times in business. You know you're actually getting beat up every day and I've said this before and I truly believe it I feel like there's nothing harder than being a male minority entrepreneur, because as a minority, obviously it's very difficult for you to get your step in.
Speaker 1:As a male, we're brought into this whole masculinity and testosterone thing where you know you can't have any type of emotional aspect to you, right, there's nothing ever wrong with you and you can't really, you know, go out and seek these types of talks or therapy, right? And then, as an entrepreneur, I could be sitting with you right now wearing this, but I could have lost 20,000 today. I could have had my CEO quit on me. I could have had a manager which is handling all my stuff where things are going well, quit on me and I'm over here with this game face on like it's all good. We got to get back to it. So a lot of the times it's being reminded of why you started and it's also staying on that path. I talked about this recently, last year. I talked about this recently Last year. I ended up making a high school decision. I got into an altercation with somebody and I felt like you know they were going to hit me and I you know defended myself and ended up going to jail for it.
Speaker 2:So I mean you're making this sound nice, bro, but you clearly got in a fight. Yeah, got into a fight yeah, I mean 100%, and you punched somebody in the face, yep.
Speaker 1:And then you got locked up. Got locked up, yeah. So I mean it was crazy, because you know you want to talk about God. It's so crazy how God does things right At that current time. My mom was in the hospital and she was in the hospital for something that we didn't know why.
Speaker 2:So your mom was in the hospital and you got locked up and it was at the same time, same time.
Speaker 1:So you couldn't even go see your mom, yep. So the crazy thing is that when I went to jail and I got out, at this point in time, I couldn't use Blue Notes, brandon, I couldn't use my money, I couldn't use anything. God said I want you to pay attention to me, even though you got this fame or these followers on Instagram, even though your bank account is a little hefty, even though that you've been doing all these great things. I want you to understand that right now, something's been going on. There's a disconnect. I need you to pay attention with me, I need you to lean in. So I couldn't use none of that. I couldn't go ahead and tell the judge listen, I'm sorry, how much is it for this to go away? I couldn't go over there and tell the doctor hey, how much is it for me to go ahead and cure my mom, right? Oh, listen, I'm this person on social media. How do we make this all go away? Right?
Speaker 1:And I had to go in there and I had to have this spiritual battle with the devil. I had to let him know. At the end of the day, we're not falling on any of this, right, we're not drifting. You felt like this while you was locked up While I was locked up and I was going through it, because a lot of the times, what ends up happening, bro, is that every time you start doing something good, something hard, comes up no 100%, and you have to understand that there's a bottleneck in there. There's something in there that is going to go ahead and make you better, but, as long know, you stay down and you see that light at the end of the tunnel and you have faith. I mean, think about this, bro. How is it that, right, we fear the devil but we don't trust our god?
Speaker 2:no facts look yo, bro. What's crazy about that is I literally was sharing out on the stage today and I was saying I was saying I'm like just to summarize it, I'm like everyone here has a goal. Everyone's sacrificing to be in this room. Everyone clearly wants to take care of people and your family or reach that financial you want to reach. But I had to ask him what's holding you back for some people? A lot of people said fear of procrastination, those are things that were echoing, and I was like and A lot of people said fear, procrastination, those are things that were echoing, yeah, and I asked him. I was like, well, who in here believes in God? Majority of the hands raised. So I'm like how can you believe in God? But then you also can believe or have faith in the fear and the procrastination. I'm like both can't exist. Yeah, Right.
Speaker 1:So you know what's crazy, bro? Fear is man-made. No, 100, fear is man-made, man manufactured. Jesus christ does not. He doesn't indulge in fear. He doesn't tell you there's fear like.
Speaker 1:Fear is something, is false evidence appearing to be real. It's something that you put in your body, your mindset that allows you to think that if this happened, right, right, the world would end. But, but it hasn't happened. And as long as you're taking mitigated risk, right, it won't happen. But at the same time, you have to become a serial risk taker. For example, people go ahead and tell me, man, like, how do I get started, right? Or how did you get over this hump?
Speaker 1:Every single day, you're doing things that are way worse than you filling out your business. Right, you may be eating something right now that can cause cancer, right you, you get in the car, you're not putting your seat belt, you drinking and driving you in miami you ain't wearing helmets. Yeah, exactly, and we all know what that means, right, I don't even know how they do it. So, at the same time, people take bigger risk all the time than actually starting their business. I mean, if you think about it, there's people right now that probably you and I both know that stand on the corner, do what they do, that are willing to go ahead and do that lifestyle versus just starting an loc because that's all they know. But if you think about it, I would rather do what I do than do that risk Risk going to jail or getting killed. And I meet so many people, bro, that unfortunately, if they just bet on themselves, they would be out of here. I mean, you see people watching the playoffs and they're willing to bet on you know, jalen, brunson or Halliburton or this, but they won't bet on themselves. Facts you see people literally all the time that they'll tell you if they had this opportunity, if they had that opportunity, that they would do it. But every single day is an opportunity. Every day you get to restart.
Speaker 1:So it's one of those things that I had to have, that spiritual battle with the devil when I went to jail last year and I had to tell him like yo listen, I understand why I'm here.
Speaker 1:When I went to jail last year and I had to tell him like yo listen, I understand why I'm here, I understand that I made a mistake, but at this point in time, just because this one mistake happened, I still have a purpose, to be able to go ahead and help as many people as I can, and because I was creating the image of God.
Speaker 1:I'm going to make mistakes, but I'm going to go ahead and continue to be this person that I was brought here on earth to do and be, and I'll move forward from this and I'll be a testament that, even though success brings great things, sometimes you can still mess up, right, but you can pick yourself up and move forward again, because we're not perfect. And that's what I learned from that particular situation and how my life started to evolve. And it's just one of those greatest things, bro, that now I mean money is a tool. It makes things better, but there's nothing better than health being aligned with God, having the greatest relationships that you can with the people that you love and care about. There's nothing better than that.
Speaker 2:So do you feel like there was something that you got out of that situation? Because I'll give you an example. Like you shared, when things are going good, when you have success, you're also going to be faced with additional challenges. That was a big challenge. Now, being locked up, there's a lot of things that are out of your control. Yeah, right, because you're basically put in there. Yeah, you're put in there. You don't got control on the outcome. Yeah, you know you, it could be extended. You can run into different personalities. Yeah, the ceos could be acting crazy. Yeah, there's, there's a lot of variables. Even even your faith can be tested. Yeah, no, everything is tested, everything is tested. So, coming out of there, how did it shape you with? Like, what changed about, maybe even your thought process? Yeah, um, how do you approach, if you do approach, life differently day to day? Like, like, what, like what are some of the intangibles that came out of you being locked up?
Speaker 1:so first and foremost is understanding that, just as quickly as God gave it to you, god can take it away, and that if you're not having that conversation with him on a on a hourly, daily, weekly basis, he's gonna find a way to make sure that you pay attention. Yeah, right, so that was. Number one is I felt like I was disaligned with my core values, and I was disaligned with with my core values within my church, my parish and God. Now was I attending church often, all the time, but was I being intentional? No, right. And was I thinking that this run would never end? No, I was thinking like man, I'm on my high horse. Business is good. Yeah, family is good. It is what it is Like. There's nothing bad going on. There's nothing bad that can happen, right, besides business stuff. So number one, it was that.
Speaker 1:Number two was understanding that this is just an error in my life right now. What I mean by that is that Blue Notes, brandon, the persona, the person, I person, I am right on social media. This is just an error that I have to make sure that I'm also building, you know, for my future, and what I mean by that is spending more time with the people that I do love and care about, because you understand this, bro, being this person on social media this is, this is great. It can be crazy with time. Yeah, you on podcasts, you on here, you on there, bro, I didn't even eat today, right, exactly. So you know, it ends up being that sometimes you end up putting people that you love on the back burner. You can't confuse people that are around for people that have always been there for you.
Speaker 1:So I started to understand that. You know what. I got to take more time to focus. Even though I'm building this legacy in this village for us, I do got to pay attention to the people that's in the village. So I started to go ahead and understand that, acquire more assets. I went ahead and upped my life insurance policy Now I'm at 3 million, thank the Lord and I started to do things where it's like man. You know what, if I had to sit behind those bars for 15 years, besides Gucci, louis, rolexes and a bunch of followers and cash in my bank account, what did I actually leave behind for my family? What things and what did I teach people in my family to do right? And that's what made me focus on more so, being intentional with the people that sometimes you kind of get a little blind to because you're always on the go trying to make things work, you feel like your circle's small.
Speaker 1:I feel like my circle is small, but I feel like my network is huge, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2:No, no, that definitely makes sense. Now, the reason why I ask you if your circle's small is because I'm a little analytical, so I'm paying attention to everything that you're saying and even how you're saying it. So I'm thinking who you're around or, or your or your core group. Generally speaking, it's hard to find individuals that you can continue to be around. That's going to sharpen each other. Yeah, that's on a a similar way of alignment, maybe have similar and or more levels of success. That can call you out on it, but it don't change the relationship. They just holding you accountable Exactly Right, and it helps you become a stronger individual.
Speaker 2:Of course, someone that, yeah, you got locked up, but now you can have the conversation as men and be like yo bro, I got this, this is what I got from it and then they can really help you identify certain things. So, with your circle being small, do you feel like, is that an advantage? Is that a disadvantage? As you become more successful, do you feel like, with people in general, right, as you become more successful, do you feel like, or with people in general, right, as you become more successful, do you feel like that circle gets smaller and smaller and smaller, or do you feel like it is possible to have a larger network, not necessarily individuals that you know, but people that are really, really close to you? Do you feel like that can get bigger, or you feel like it's always going to be small and maybe even get smaller?
Speaker 1:No, I mean, I think that it can get bigger and I think that the vision should be to get it bigger. I think that a lot of the times, you know, coming from certain areas, you don't want to express yourself with people, you don't want to have a big circle, you don't want to meet new people, of people, you don't want to have a big circle, you don't want to meet new people. And, as of right now, I feel like my circle is small, but I wish and would like for it to get bigger, because I want to be around individuals, like you said, that can call me and hold me accountable, that I can say hey, man, let's go to church, but it's also let's build a business together, right? Or let's go ahead and go on a double date, or, you know what, let's take our kids out to go and do X, y, z. So I think it's very important to have both. But I think it's also very important to understand, you know, what type of relationship. It is right If it's an asset or liability.
Speaker 1:So typically, most of the times, if you look at it, there's either something spiritual, there's either some type of sexual, there's some type of recreational relationship, and when that piece of it goes away. That's where you lose interest in that relationship. So, you know, in high school I was just always like into, you know, shoes and all of that good stuff. And at high school you don't really talk to those people no more, right? Or let's just say that you play basketball. You get hurt, you stop playing basketball, you're not going to be hanging around those people as much anymore because that recreational relationship now is gone, right? Let's just say you fall in love with some girl and it was mostly lust, right and that point in time you start to go ahead and do on to other things. Well, that was more of a sexual relationship.
Speaker 1:So you got to understand the different types of relationships in your network and in your inner circle and that's how you can really identify whether this person is going to be with you for a while because of how you align with them. And if it's only one of those things, it's probably going to be a short-lived relationship, in my opinion. Yeah, bro, because you could be in business with somebody, right B? And then that business venture ends. Let's say, you stop podcasting and you go into something else.
Speaker 1:You may not be talking to all the people you're just podcasting with because you wasn't spending time with them on a daily basis doing other things. It was just mostly the podcast world, right. But if you podcasting with somebody but at the same time you're a business partner with them and then also let's just say, you guys go to the same church, there's still three more opportunities or scenes there where you can still align with them and that's how you can start to, you know, grow from there. But you know, it's really big understanding like, in my sense, right, internet relationships, personal relationships, right, um, recreational relationships, because sometimes you can fall trapped to these types of things and then you get hurt because you didn't identify those in the beginning.
Speaker 2:Rob Markman yeah, nah, I definitely. But that makes sense to me, bro. I can understand where you're coming from. I truly identify with that, because even me and maybe you feel like this, like when you're successful or if you have a certain level of accomplishments, or maybe you just have an amazing day and you don't have anyone to share it with, or you feel like maybe you don't have no one to share it with because they may not understand you yeah, or they may not understand what you're doing, yeah, right, they can't conceive the outcome Exactly, right. Or there may be some jealousy there or some tendencies that aren't positive or supporting to where you want to go, or it might just be like, yeah, bro, that's dope, but they didn't really mean it. You know what?
Speaker 1:I'm saying, yeah, that didn't mean it, they didn't understand it. They didn't see the work you had to put in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that's facts. So you're doing something different too, man, like now you got some things going on with AI. Yeah, yeah, yeah you know, which right now is it's the wave. It is, but it's not. So. When I say it's not, it's like people are paying attention to it. Yes, yeah, yeah, but a lot of people still aren't really tapped in. Um, so, share what, share what you have going on with with ai yeah and you clearly got some excitement around it. So so break, break that down for us.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So, like I said, man, I've been a real estate investor for seven years now, an entrepreneur, and when I first got started I remember my first deal, man, I used to go ahead and go to Staples. I used to get the paper and then I used to go ahead and print it out on my computer at home. Then I go back to Staples and cut it out. So I would have four different postcards and I would go ahead and send that out to tax delinquent properties. I would send it out to, like probate properties, different types of people where we thought they would be motivated to want to sell at a discount. And as well, at that point in time we was driving around for dollars. You know which is driving around looking for ugly houses. Now, with AI, most of that stuff is obsolete. You don't really have to do a lot of that stuff. So before, when you were basically my mentor OG, I used to get with him, drive to his house and do all those types of things, but sometimes he wasn't available, maybe more day, weekend or nighttime. When you first get started, you were just all invested into trying to make this money. I remember when I was so infatuated with real estate host land. I used to look at every YouTube video, every article, and I used to try to hit them up. But now with AI bro, we have it to where we've built a mentor for you 24 seven that will help you answer any question that you need. When it comes down to the process and the doing so, is it like Blue Nose AI Basically. So it's actually called the AI Host Seller and essentially I'll kind of give you the wraparound of how it works. So right now we're using AI to help us pre-qualify leads. So we have AI that essentially, if we have like direct mail, it can go ahead and help you through text and voice pre-qualify those leads without you obviously having to physically take those calls or take those text messages while you're at work.
Speaker 1:But number two to that is, for example, if I'm going into a Boston market, the first thing that I do is I teach reverse wholesaling is understanding your avatar and then finding the deal. Because a lot of the times I get flooded with DMs where people hit me up as, like yo, I got a good deal on the contract but nobody buys it. Well, if nobody bought it, it's not a good deal, right, because something's only worth what somebody else willing to pay for it. So with now, with AI incorporated, it used to take me about maybe 90 minutes to do market research, understanding like the hottest zip codes, cash transactions, fixing and flipping activity. Now, with AI, that step can be done in four minutes, right, pulling the list right. I'll give you an example.
Speaker 1:We started wholesaling in Las Vegas and I was text messaging and I was going after I think at the time it was maybe like absentee owner Well, I didn't do my market research.
Speaker 1:We found out that most of the people that live in Las Vegas are actually older, and do older people text, bro, hell, no.
Speaker 1:So we went from texting to direct mail and cold calling and then we went from that absentee own list to a uh, what's called an empty nesters or snowbirds list, right, which is more for elderly people. And because I did my market research correctly, boom, we were able to get deals. So now with ai, you're able to go ahead and do the market research in minutes. You're able to get the list that pertains to that market in minutes and we have it so dialed in, bro, to where now you can even role play with the AI and it'll tell you, like out of 10, how you did what you need to work on and it'll keep track of how you're doing all the time. You talked about creative deals, owning properties through seller, financing, innovations, lease options subject to it can structure the deal for you, tell you what it's going to be in a snapshot in the next year, 30 years, exit strategies all while you just basically being a beginner.
Speaker 2:What type of opportunity is that? Because I can see from, let's say, users' perspective how game changing it is. Rob Markman yeah, rob Markman, but as a developer, what's the opportunity for someone like yourself? Why are you in this space? And then like do you feel like there's a ceiling? Do you feel like this is a seven, eight figure opportunity or more? Rob Markman yeah, Rob Markman. Like, what made it so attractive? What about the opportunity that you identified with that? You was like yo, this makes sense. This makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1:You probably hear this often success loves speed, yeah, right. And I think that once I started to get into myself into real estate wholesaling, it was always how can I go ahead and cut overhead? Where it comes down to, my cost per lead is lower, as well as the uh, the, the turn or the overturn, the burn of having to hire and fire people, because you're always trying to be cost effective, which is why most of the times, you hire people abroad but then they end up either stealing your leads or not, you know, coming into work or you know, because it's it's a it's a hard thing to cold call, right, they get, they get burnt out, right. So with AI, bro, ai never gets tired. Ai is always going to have the same tonality because of the voice you choose. Ai is not going to call out on you and they're not going to go ahead and obviously steal your leads. So I think it's a great opportunity, especially for the people that, essentially, are limited on time and are trying to transition from having that nine to five or having those responsibilities, but want to go ahead and get started and start their own business.
Speaker 1:And what I love about real estate, bro, is that you win in life but lose on paper, right? Because of the tax depreciation. And let's just be real, bro, people don't buy real estate, the rich and wealthy, we don't buy real estate for the $300 cashflow, right? We buy real estate for tax depreciation and instead of keeping our money in the bank, we keep it in real estate because that's just the best way to do it. So, if you think about it, a lot of the times most people want to go ahead and get started, but they think they need huge capital, they think they need a license, they think they need to learn all these different things. But with AI, now, you can truly do so without having to go out and quit your job or be able to put that family at risk because they're relying on you because of that income to start your business.
Speaker 1:Because, if you think about it, bro, if you can go ahead and just acquire five houses to where you're cash flowing let's just say $500 each that can replace most minimum wage jobs, right, yeah, and not only is it replacing it, you have an asset, exactly. So now it's grown in appreciations. Let's say you got five houses that in 20 years or whatever, right, the age of 56, 67, whatever it is that they say you retire at, are each worth $100,000. Most people, when they retire, have less than $200,000 in their 401k after working 40, 50 years in the marketplace. Right, so I think that this is the best way to do so and be able to do it with velocity, because most people do not want to get started because they're at risk of, you know, losing that income because they need to survive.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and last, to add to that, bro, america's on sale right now. Yeah, it is like the economy and what trump is doing to try to go ahead and offset what's been happening Right now. Real estate is going to take a hit for it, but I think this is what needs to happen for the rates to go down and there's going to be a huge opportunity and a transfer of wealth to be able to go ahead and pick up these properties at 30, 40 cents on the dollar Fire sale.
Speaker 2:Exactly In certain areas 100%. Yeah, yeah, 40 cents on a dollar fire sale. Exactly in in certain areas 100. Yeah, yeah, I like, I like what you got going on, bro.
Speaker 1:like you're, you're diversifying but at the same time you're staying in the vertical you have to, bro, because when you're not focused on one thing, um, that's, that's how you get flustered. Yeah, and that's what the devil wants. Going back to outwitting the devil, bro, most people that aren't successful, most people that are just essentially, let's just say that every single day, that day-to-day life, that day-to-day grind, they're there because they cannot make a decision to stick to it. If you think about women and how long they spend trying to just choose an outfit, just imagine if they got paid hourly for that, right. If you think about just men and how they think about, well, you know what, maybe I'll do the military, but you know what.
Speaker 1:I seen this guy talking about drop shipping. Or you know what? I saw this guy talking about Toro. And they're not making the decision on a career choice. All that time, that's what the devil wants you to do. Time, that's what the devil wants you to do. So once you stick to one thing, that one thing can allow you to go ahead and become a million.
Speaker 2:You don't need the seven streams of income. I think nowadays, with technology, access to resources and information, like you said, people want to share. You can go on youtube, obviously, chat, gbt, instagram, tiktok. People give you information. They, they want, they want you to have it, yeah, so now there's really no excuse. It's really just up to if you, you know if that person really wants to execute or not. Yeah, and and to your point, they're going to be focused on that one thing instead of being like all over the place. Yeah, you, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Can I add to that? Yeah, so I think that information right now is coming at lightning speeds. But people have to also understand that free information is kind of like Ikea it's not going to come with the batteries, it's not going to come with the screwdriver.
Speaker 2:It's going to come with that terrible instruction it's going to give you steps one through five and then seven and eight are missing and then you're going to get nine and ten, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then 15, the manual is literally watered down to where you don't know what to do next. 100%, and that's why you have to get a mentor. Yeah, right, if you understand that every shortcut has a hidden fee. It has that fine print that you're going to pay for it. Right, and we always understand. Right, you either pay with time or you pay with money. What people don't understand is that time is in that like it's so valuable you can never get it back. And as long as I can trade money, yeah, bro, right, and that's what I really understood.
Speaker 1:Right, you talked about when did you realize that you became a man and what was that turning point? I realized also that I became a true business owner when I understood that things was actually an investment, not an expense. Yeah for sure, when I first started, I'd be like, damn, hold on. I got to spend $2,000 on ads, then I got to pay to do $5,000 to run it. Damn, there's no shortcut for this. There's no way I could finesse a 30%, 40%. You got to understand, bro, for that little business owner and you to die and you become the CEO, you have to be able to graduate and say you know what? I'm willing to trade this that they print every single day for some services that can allow me to scale. That's something that most people won't do, bro, because they're scared of winning. That's what I've noticed. The pressure of winning is actually harder than being broke, because you got to consistently do this every single day.
Speaker 1:Most people now, like people that I know close friends, family. I had somebody hit me up today. They're like oh man, where you at? Now I'm in Miami, I'm doing I was at a mastermind, now I'm doing a podcast. It's just regular to them. It's regular to them To other people. It's like they're like man, I want to be doing what he's doing. To others it's like, okay, he's been winning, there's there's no way to catch up to him, right? So it's like lebron being in the league 20 years. If you see him go below a double, he do 10 points. We all gonna be like lebron.
Speaker 2:Lebron scored 10 points or or he didn't score no points, oh he didn't score no points, yeah right.
Speaker 1:So the pressure of winning sometimes I think that people don't date, that responsibility is huge for them. But I'll tell you this, man I wouldn't trade this for nothing in the world.
Speaker 2:So as we close out, bro, what's, um, I mean, bro, you, you, you really hit on a lot, to be honest. Yeah, you know, you know what I mean, but what? What's like one or two things that if someone had to take something from me, let's say they didn't really watch the whole part, but you can encapsulate it in just this moment, right here. What's one or two things that you feel like people really need to receive if they want to have some success or just change whatever they got going on right now.
Speaker 1:That's a great question. I'll leave it with a statement. Bro, it doesn't take a long time to make a lot of money. It just takes a long time becoming a person willing to do it, and for me, thankfully, it didn't take a long time. And some people it never comes.
Speaker 1:So what I would tell people is to make sure that that book of your life is a good read, because one day somebody is going to go ahead and look back and be like, yeah, I don't want to read this book, right? So that's what I would say, man is just put your all effort into this and I'm from Queens, new York. Get rich without trying. I mean, what else can you really? What else is there to honestly do? Because money rules the world and it's unfortunate, right Like when my mom was in the hospital if she didn't have health insurance, they would have kicked her out.
Speaker 1:If I was an entrepreneur, you imagine me being there working two jobs, going to community college for four months, every single day, visiting my mom. You think they would have kept me. You think they would have been like it's okay, we'll let you keep your jobs, we won't fail you out of college. They would have fired me. Nobody's here to save us. When you buy that charger, right that you can't leave the car lot without car insurance, but when you are born, you can leave without health and life insurance tracks. It goes to show that nobody's here to save us. They don't really care about us. It's our job to make sure that we leave a footprint in this earth by how we treat people and how we do things, and make sure that we impact lives and leave our families and our next generation in a better position. So that's what I would say. If you didn't watch the whole thing, you should go back and watch it, though.
Speaker 2:Yo, I would definitely agree. I would, if you just catch it right now, hit that button, start this Jones over, because we definitely went in with a lot of Jones right here. What's one thing you want to ask me?
Speaker 1:Honestly, one thing I wanted to ask you, bro, was I feel like you're very composed and I feel like you have a lot of control over your life, and I feel, like many people, they're flustered, they're anxious, they don't know how to do that right. They don't know how to do that, they don't know how to keep at bay outside and inside. They don't have control over anything. So I wanted to ask you it seems like you kind of mastered that how did you get to that point? Were you always like that? That's a great question.
Speaker 2:I don't think no one's ever asked me that. Definitely was not always like this, but it goes back to me wanting to become the best version of me. I remember I was dating this Colombian woman when I was younger, probably within my 20s, maybe 21 or 24. And prior to that relationship, I was through a lot of death my mom passed, dad passed, grandmother passed.
Speaker 1:Sorry to hear that.
Speaker 2:Uncle, great grandmother, everyone passed. So I became numb to death. So I was holding on to it. And then I didn't have anyone in my life that I could share and I didn't have the guidance to know how to properly process the emotions and express. So I held it all in and I was doing things to kind of help me process and help me heal. But I was still holding it all in.
Speaker 2:So I used to take a lot of my emotions out, not necessarily just on her, and it wasn't like a domestic situation. I just couldn't control. I had a lot of rage, I had a lot of anger, you didn't know why, and I just couldn't control it. So we would get into stupid arguments, bro. It'd be about nothing. And then I'd go take her phone, throw it in the forest you know what I'm saying. Or she'd be at my crib and she lived in Rhode Island at the time and I remember one day it was raining. I went downstairs I've been here with windshield wipers, bro, so she couldn't wipe the rain off the windshield. I just couldn't control myself. And then other times, whether it was, let's say, I got in an argument with someone, I would lose it. You know what I mean, yeah, I remember punching the wall a couple times no emotional discipline at all.
Speaker 2:But I knew as soon as I got done with that rage that I was wrong, yeah Right. So I would meet and this is before I knew God, but I had a relationship with God, but I would speak to God and I'd be like yo, god, I got to control myself, help me to control myself. You know what he did? Put me in another situation, just like that. Yeah, and guess what I did? Same, thing, same thing you know what he did.
Speaker 1:Put me another situation, just like that. Yeah, guess what I did?
Speaker 2:same thing, same thing, because you don't know, because I don't, I didn't know that, you don't know. That's how he's testing you exactly. I'm like in my mind, I'm like fix me, yeah you know what I'm saying, but he, he.
Speaker 2:This is how he's, this is how he fixed me yeah so, and once I got a little bit more self-awareness, then I was like, all right, I messed, god Give it to me again, yep, but I was more aware. So then eventually I was able to control myself. And I don't know where I read this, but I did read this. And they were saying the man that is the strongest is the one that has the most emotional control in situations that are heightened. You know what I mean. Facts, and there's been several, so so in my mind I'm like, okay, I can draw back which one of the most detrimental situation death yeah right.
Speaker 2:So I've been through so much of it. It's like almost I mastered that emotion. So when I was able to finally process it and go from numb to um, um, you know, regret and bitterness, to be able to heal from that, everything else was easier bro so car accident.
Speaker 2:Like, okay, for example, I scratched my car a couple of days ago. It's my fault, you know. I'm saying I never even tapped my whip, but I tapped it and I just laughed. Like I'm like, yeah, because when I do I'm gonna get upset about that, yeah, right. Or or, or you know, um, I got an argument with someone or you know earlier about something that was small, but like, because it's like if I get upset about something, the problem still persists. Yeah, but now I just created another problem, yeah, right.
Speaker 2:So for me, everything is everything is small. Yeah, everything's small. So you make it big. When you make it big, you still got that same problem you gotta deal with, but now you gotta fix the other problem and that might lead to something bigger. Yeah, right, because now it might change the direction of a relationship or may may add more stress. Yeah, or.
Speaker 2:Or, you know, maybe if you can't control your emotions, maybe maybe that that gets you to eat. Yeah, maybe your emotional eat it. So it may lead to to different things. So for me, it it's, it's just been, it's been a challenge over time and now it's just easy, bro, cause I'm like, if I get upset or if I let that bother me. What else is gonna happen, you know. But yeah, that's pretty good that you've identified that and I think it's cool. That's why I asked you about the circle, because it's like we have that circle, you can trust people to actually share things with you. You know, directly, indirectly, consciously, subconsciously and beyond. So then now you can either sharpen that up, work on it or go get another tool or resource so you can just be better.
Speaker 2:Of course, sharpens iron. Yeah, yeah, so that's my answer for that.
Speaker 1:That was a good answer, man. It's a good quality to master.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure. What you got for the people, bro. I mean you got so many things that you're working on. I mean, you're a master in your space. You got so many things that you're working on. I mean, you know you're a master in your space. You got something new that you're working on. That's also a tool, a resource. What's the best way someone can tap in with you and what do you actually have for them?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean honestly, at this current moment, the best way would be through Instagram, at Blue Notes, brandon, same thing on YouTube, and it's really just helping people. You helping people get started in real estate using AI, and I think that's a journey that is going to be a continuous journey, because I think that AI is the future and I'm really excited to see what it's going to transpire, to be like in the next five years, in the next year. I think it's developing so fast that, as things go on, it's just going to be crazy. So, um, as of right now, we're helping people obviously get their first deal or scale their real estate business using ai. Uh, to do most of the work and, um, I'm frequently having at this current moment, you know, uh, master classes, free classes, obviously, showing people how to get started. So you know, that's, that's basically the biggest thing.
Speaker 1:Um, there's obviously always been little ventures here and there that I've always wanted to jump into because I'm like man that looks like a good money grab, but I've started to understand that not all money is good money, right, and that real estate is my true calling and I just love it. I think that, at the end of the day, your favorite guru. He's making all this money online, but he got to spend it in real estate because of taxes anyways, right? So real estate is the best way to go, in my opinion. It's king, and that's how we're going to continue to help people, bro.
Speaker 2:If they wanted to tap into that masterclass immediately, how would they get there?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean they could just go ahead and click the link in my bio, so you want them to go to Instagram. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go to my Instagram. Click the link in my bio and just tap in right then and there, or just let me know. Hey, I saw you on the pod. I like what you got going on. How can I connect with you?
Speaker 2:Very, very simple, yeah, yeah yeah, and if y'all want his fit, definitely send him a DM.
Speaker 1:Be like yo, the real estate thing right now, do not grab the fit. And this is just a real quick disclaimer, man, because I always got kids, young guys. They always come up to me and say, man, you dripped out of you this. You that I wouldn't really be wearing all of this if I wasn't in this line of business. If I was that one CEO, accountant bro that just worked for a big firm and made good money, I wouldn't aspire to want to have a Lamborghini. I wouldn't aspire to wear like stuff like this because at the end of the day, like I said, this is an eyeball game, this is a game of the marketing. Spending, you know, four or 5,000 on a Louis V suit is not the best return unless you in this line of business. You know what I'm saying. So but yeah, I do like staying fresh. I mean, it's funny, it's a little side note. Right, I was talking about Uber driver and we were talking about how you know, as you start to understand your place in business and entrepreneurship, you start to level up right. As far as you know, you're getting your nails clipped right, staying nice and ready and fresh and fit, but mostly getting a nice watch right. And I always remember like people were like, man, once you get a nice watch, a nice watch, you know everybody, that's how you identify. And uh, it's been dope.
Speaker 1:But now my big wave has been cologne. So now, when I wear nice cologne man, I get guys asking me yo, what you wearing? And then you get women, and now I'm able to go ahead and start conversations off of that cologne, because the first thing I say is, oh, I'm wearing creed, I'm wearing Creed, or I'm wearing Louis, or I'm wearing Givenchy, and they're like, oh damn, he wearing 500-lakh cologne. What he do, yeah, facts. So what I would tell you is, before you get this suit, man, make sure that you well cut clean. But, most importantly, get yourself some nice cologne, because people are going to ask you, and when they ask you and they're going to ask you what you're doing, At that point in time that's how you can solve a problem.
Speaker 2:So, yo, we got another show, so we're going to bring B back for the other show. We'll tap into the cologne. Matter of fact, you should bring some bottles.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's crazy.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying? Bring some bottles. We got something special for y'all. It'll be a part two, but not really because it's going to be a whole different part Scheme, a whole different scheme. But today's been fire. Make sure you guys tap in. Follow my Instagram, bro, and I appreciate you for making the time.
Speaker 1:Of course, brother, thank you. Thank you for having me, brother Bless.
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