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Welcome to the Honor Pursuit Podcast, where we connect with entrepreneurs, movers, shakers and business owners who've built amazing things on the pursuit of their goals and dreams. And I'm your host, brendan Boyd. What's up y'all? Welcome to another episode of the Honor Pursuit Podcast. We connect with six, seven, eight-figure entrepreneurs. I like to share their stories with you. We figure out what's going on with them, what helped them to get to this success and the lessons that you could take from them so you can get to your success a little bit faster. On today's episode we have Shabazzie OG, and this individual is someone that we met in passing. You know what I'm saying? We got a mutual friend but at the same time we met, met in passing, and after our first conversation, bro, we was in the street kind of going at like what like 30 minutes or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe 30, 40 minutes, one of them days somebody was able to get me out the house. Yeah, you don't come out the house much. Nah, not enough. It got to stay there, enjoy the amenities and all that. No, no, for real you know I've been in the crib more, but you know lauren was able to get me out the house that day for that, for that event. And you know, in true fashion, normally when I come outside it's fruitful.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what I'm saying Because, like you said I'm intentional with where I go and typically the places I frequent. You know something is extracted. You know when I leave Something beneficial. Yeah, like sitting here.
Speaker 1:Shout out to Lauren For real man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, official, yeah, like sitting here shout out to lauren for real man yeah, she made this happen.
Speaker 2:She's making a lot of moves happen and stuff like that. Miss westerman, yeah, for real. Um, so what's going on with the book, bro, you know?
Speaker 1:um, so one thing's for sure, right and when we met I was like yo send me the link right off the rip I was like you got a book, send me the link right. Yeah, absolutely, grab the book immediately. I haven't had a chance to to dive in it because since we uh, connected, I've been on the road.
Speaker 2:I ain't really right home, right right but it made it to the crib.
Speaker 1:No that's cool once I get to the crib, I'll be able to get into it. So, so what? What is this book really about? What's going on in the book?
Speaker 2:um, if you flip it over and you look at the top in the back, the top paragraph for the top, yeah, the top paragraph, you're going to learn everything the hard way because you don't listen.
Speaker 1:It's what I remember my mother telling me when I was seven years old and to this day, no words have proven to be more accurate than those.
Speaker 2:That's the foundation of the book. The foundation of the book is my life experiences from what my mother said, from being hardheaded being hardheaded, not listening, doing things the way I wanted them to be done versus accepting guidance, being obedient to my mother and authority. You know, I grew up with her I wouldn't say a lack of respect for authority. But now that I'm an adult, looking back to being a kid and a child and a young man and a teenager and all that, things had to resonate with me from a sensible perspective and like in my life now, if something don't make sense, sense, it's just hard for me to receive it or accept it. Which lets me know why I was so hard-headed.
Speaker 2:Because we forget kids are just smaller, unlearned, uneducated version of adults. Yeah, so our, our, our dna is Our opinions are formed, us as individuals are formed. We just haven't matured into that formation, right. So I look back and realize as a kid I'm bucked so much because it didn't make sense to me Some of the things my mother said to do you feel like it didn't make sense?
Speaker 1:It didn't make sense to you because you were young, you didn't understand as of yet.
Speaker 2:Not only that, it went. It went against what I wanted.
Speaker 2:Got you you know what I'm saying, so like when you're reading the book. When my mother, when I was five, and she took my guns and my cowboy suit and my cowboy hat and put it in the trash because she had become a Jehovah's Witness, and I came home from school and just like that, life had changed for me and I'm like, where's my guns, where's my pants, where's my like? What? What's going on? What's happening? Where is? And she said it's in the trash. So I went in the trash and took it out, but then she took it back and put it's in the trash. So I went in the trash and took it out, but then she took it back and put it back in the trash and was like you know, jehovah don't like guns. And I'm like, oh, who is? Who is Jehovah? Like what's going on? Like you know what I'm saying, like so that was the beginning of something that my mother accepted as a religion for her life that impacted mine.
Speaker 2:I was I come from a family of athletes. On my father's side, I was naturally good at football, naturally good at basketball, naturally good at like anything that I did sports wise, I was good at. But because of this religion that my mother accepted for herself and me being her child, and then she went on to have more children. We had to receive what my mother had accepted. But again, it impacted my life because, based on based on the conditions of the religion, there's certain things that you're not allowed to do. Playing sports at that time in my life was one of them. I couldn't play sports, my mother didn't allow it, you know, because the religion didn't allow it. And I said I'm saying so. It was like those kind of things created rebellion To the point where it's like when you start to feel confined and you don't feel like you're doing anything wrong, you're just going with who you naturally are. I naturally, like women, I've been flirting and since I was five you understand what I'm saying. Six years old, I had my first crush. So it's like this is who I am by nature and it's all being constricted. I can't wiggle, I can't be who I'm naturally am. So it created this rebellion. So by the time I was 17, it was up I'm doing what I want to do, I don't care what you say, you can beat me. And at 18, I was put out. You understand me. So you know. That's the foundation of this book.
Speaker 2:A lot of things I should have listened to, but because I didn't listen, I had certain experiences being in the street, street, being in dangerous situations, you know, going to prison, uh, bad relationships, bad relationship choices, bad relation, bad decisions within relationship structures. So, like I learned, I did. I did exactly what she said. I learned everything the hard way, but learned, which is why I'm able to speak the way I speak today to the people that I speak to and garnered so much effectiveness because it's authentic and it's genuine, because I'm not.
Speaker 2:I'm not talking about something that came from research. I'm not talking about something that I Google. You know something that I read in a book or saw in a documentary. Like everything in that book, I really lived it and now I'm able to share it, you know, with our culture, with our society, with our young adults, with our younger, with the older adults and all the way down to teenagers and adolescents. You know, because I'm resonating with everybody from the age of as low as nine to 65, you know. So you know it was a lot. It was a hard lessons that I learned through life, but I wouldn't trade any of it in, so to speak, because it all made me who I am.
Speaker 1:What do you feel like one of the hardest lessons that you learned?
Speaker 2:the hard way where you feel like Going to prison. That was the hardest one. That was the hardest one because long did you log down for? Uh, 14 months. But I tell people all the time what I learned about, what I learned about prison is sometimes it's not about the amount of time you do is the conditions you endure. I endured like unorthodox.
Speaker 2:I was in six different facilities. I was in the hole for two months. I've heard violence occurring. The hole is solo confinement. Yeah, so it depends on the facility and what you're in the hole for. So I was up Broadway, so I was in the hole for. So I was in um, I was up broadway, so I was in the hole in the broadway.
Speaker 2:Now that was a two-man cell. But what the first week I was there was in a one man cell. Then, when they moved me down the hall and I was in the two-man cell. But sometimes you either, though you want a two-man cell, you can still be by yourself. But the way it's set up is. You know, you might have heard people make the reference belly of the beast. You're really like in the basement of the jail and but it's a, it's a guard there. It's like maybe 14 cells, a shower and very little lighting. So it's dense conditions. You know what I'm saying. But you can have at least one cellmate or you could, you know, be there by yourself. So my time was broken up between having two cellmates and then some of the time I was by myself.
Speaker 2:What's that mindset like? Because you go in there, right a certain way. Then you got to endure those conditions, but then you got to have a certain mindset. So when you get out, or even just to endure that, well, for me the biggest challenge was never having been away before under those conditions. I had been locked up before I had been in the county, you know I had, you know, been in the precincts, but never had. I didn't that I did. I have to go upstate and I'm grateful that I didn't have to do five years, 10 years, seven years.
Speaker 2:You know things like that because, being there in that period of time, even though when I came home, you know you still are adjusting to Life and Remembering those conditions, remembering how much you hated it, remember how much you don't want to go back, but then you still, you still want to get to the fast paper, you're still hustling, you're still doing things that can actually sing you back to something that you absolutely detested, so being there. You endure the disrespect from the CEOs. You endure the loneliness. You endure the you know unfamiliar personalities, that you have to learn who to interact with and who not, you know. That's why the safest bet is to mind your business and stay in your lane.
Speaker 2:And you know so, being there, the conditions weren't so bad, but it was just the lack of freedom, and people can can play with your freedom. People can talk to you any kind of way that they want, because they know that they had a power to increase this sentence. Or like when I was in the assessment center, which is kind of like a halfway house, when I was almost home just kind of like a halfway house when I was almost home there was a guy who was just deliberately antagonistic towards people because he knew, like if you get in trouble here, they could send you back to the prison and then you don't get no parole, you got to do the rest of your time, like when they know they. So these kinds of people, when they have issues at home, you know their wife cheating or they, they girl don't love them no more, their kids don't respect them and they get to come in there, act a fool with us because they got our freedom in their hands.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know that bothered me more than anything just being in a, because remember growing up I don't like being told what to do. You know what I'm saying. But now I'm in a situation where not listening can increase the hold that somebody got on my freedom. So that was the. That was more of the disdain with it for me what were?
Speaker 1:what were the um the?
Speaker 2:decisions that uh led you to go to prison, right?
Speaker 1:and then when did you realize, like yo this?
Speaker 2:is it like? What was that hard pivot? You was like yo, I ain't going back, this is, I'm changing. Um, I used to have a real thing for guns man. I was, I went, I went, I went. I finally went to prison for uh, for gun possession. But I had many arrests for guns prior to actually going to prison for it, because I went to prison in Jersey but I'm from Philly, so I got locked up with guns in Philly, so much, but it always resulted in probation. So I never went to prison in Philly. But when I got locked up in Jersey with a gun Jersey off the road the law was different. Not necessarily the law was different. They saw my jacket. Oh yeah, ok, gotcha. And I had three open gun cases. At one time I got locked up with a gun, went to jail, out on bail, got locked up with another gun while I'm out on bail for that gun. Then I get locked up again out on bail.
Speaker 1:So I'm out on bail on three gun cases at the same time, were you getting caught with the guns the same way, like how are you? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:The first gun I got caught. The first gun I got caught with, I got profiled. I was in West Fully, was I was. I was in West Philly, I'm 46 and walk across the street while I was hustling that, and the cops, you know they used to have this thing where they there's a, there's a, there's there's a. It is a case called Terry versus Ohio where it was argued that police can't say I saw his, there was a bulge in his shirt or a bulge in his pants and that's why I stopped him, like a lot of my. I think one of my closest friends beat a case like that and other people beat a case like that, but that's why they stopped me. They said they saw a bulge and when they snatched me the bulge was bulging, you know.
Speaker 2:so the balls is really about your the bulge is really a boys. They did miss bulge, you know. I mean I had a big 357 on me and um got locked up for that. I don't bail. One day I'm gonna pay phone and I don't see the cops coming by. The time I saw him it was too late because I got. I got a gun on me. But again, I'm not doing anything. I'm on the corner, I'm on the pay phone and they come across the street, the opposite, they coming from that way but they pull up on the opposite side of the block, right where I was, and jump out on me and just pat me down. I'm strapped, you know what I'm saying. Like I'm not doing nothing, I'm not interacting with nobody, I'm by myself and jammed. Again, that's the second one. The third one I'm on the corner out southwest Philly me, some other guys, again strapped, but this time I got her. So the first time I had the .357, the second time I had the .38. This time I
Speaker 2:got her. I got a MAC-11 on me. I got a MAC-11. Like, I was good with carrying guns. I knew how to conceal them good. Like it was easy for me to carry them because of the way I dressed and because of the way I tucked them this time something happened and everybody ran. So I'm on foot and the cops chasing me, but I was so far ahead of them I was able to get the clip out my sock and throw them, because the clip I had a long clip, I had like a 32 shot clip. So the clip wasn't in the gun, the clip was in my sock. So you know, if you know what a MAC looks like, mac-11s are like MACs are like flat. They're not like the Tech-9 with the round barrel, it's like flat. So it's like it was real smooth and you could tuck it. But when they caught me, I pulled the gun out and just held it in the air because they was chasing me on foot, couldn't catch me, but they cut me off in the car. But when they got the gun they didn't have no bullets, they didn't have
Speaker 2:no clip. But this was one time I thought the cops was going to beat me up, but they did their job. Like the guy was out of breath, he was laughing. The cop was like okay, you know, know you, okay, you outran me, but we got you like he. They wasn't on no bs with me, you know. I'm saying and you know, and, and that was the third, that was, that was my third gun case and you know, my lawyer ended up getting all the cases consolidated into one and you know, and that's how I got the probation one probation for all those cases. But what wound up happening in the end? Like you say, what was the pivot? I'm gonna be honest B it really wasn't one, it was more. So I followed the direction of my life and I just didn't go against the grain. So when I started to realize things was changing for me, when I started to realize I was doing good without risking my freedom, when I started to realize I was doing good without taking penitentiary chances, it kind of just like it evolved in 06, a drug case, but the cops took money, never came to court, you understand. So I beat the case. So that was my last
Speaker 2:arrest, 2012. On two separate occasions I had large amounts of money on me in the airport and the um tsa, yeah, tsa called. So you know when tsa, you know um, stops you for a large amount of money, uh, dea comes. Well, dea came for me because I got stopped in carolina and I got stopped in san francisco. Both times it was DEA who came and took the money. But if I knew now what I knew, then they never would have got that bread either time. Neither time would they have gotten the money. But at the time, the first time, it was like $110,000. And the lawyer told me like we was going to try to get the money back. But then, like 30 days later, I got stopped again on the West Coast and it was like 63,000. So like in a 30-day period, these people done took almost 200 grand from me,
Speaker 2:almost $175,000. And he, like I don't know what you're doing, but whatever it is, stop, because eventually you're going to open a money laundering case against yourself and it's going to affect you and whoever's around you. Because you got the cash, you're trying to load it, because I'm traveling with this kid. But see again, it's so tricky when it comes to the money in the airports because a lot of people don't know you can carry as much money as you want in the airport, domestically, as you want, as long as you're not leaving the country. If I wanted to walk, if I wanted to go to Miami International right now with a half a ticket to go to Vegas and gamble, trick off whatever I want to do with 500 bands, I can do that, it's
Speaker 2:not illegal. If they stop me in the airport and say, what are you doing with all this money, I could curse them out, I could tell them to call whoever you want to call, because if I can suffice for the money, that's the part where people don't understand. If I can suffice for the money, they can't take it. They can prolong, they can detain you, they can question you and even if they take it, they won't have to give it back if you can suffice for it. But they so used to people not being able to suffice for the money because most times it is drug money. So they done got comfortable just taking people bread. They will never take a dollar from you. They don't give it back. No, they don't give it back. What do they do with the money? What you think they do with it? I'm just saying, bro, they just out here just taking all this.
Speaker 2:They take people money. They keeping it. That's crazy. They keeping because this, think about it. If you don't endure, you get caught in the airport. You got a hundred bands and you know you can't prove where you got it from. You didn't get locked up, you got away with your freedom. You don't care that they took the money. You didn't get a lot, you got it. It's a hundred thousand. You know what I'm saying. Like you, y'all got it. It's $100,000. You know what I'm saying? Like they didn't take you, they took the money. Now what they do with it remains to be seen. But my guess is they're going to divvy that up, because why wouldn't they? It's undocumented.
Speaker 2:Y'all say hell of a Friday fellas, but that's really how it would be, because the case I caught in 06, that's what they did. I mean I had like little 8,800 on me, like 9,000. But when you know, when you get locked up I don't know if you've ever been arrested before when you go on your property receipt, they have to document whatever they took from you. So I knew I had $8,800 on me, but on the, when they on my property receipt with my wallet and my shoelaces and every my wife, whatever day they took from me. The money was 2,800, so they took 6,000, you know, and this was like January 5th or 6th, so I'm like, okay, they got their Christmas money back and then they never came to court, you know. So I ended up in the case.
Speaker 2:So, you know, like cops is crooks man, like cops is crooks man. You know cops is crooks too. But again, it's a game. You know that you have to know how to play. When you're out there playing it, and I just, you know, life just got to a place where it just was no longer worth it to me.
Speaker 2:So back in 2012, when, when, when, when the lawyer told me that he was like look man, he's like you. You know you don't want, you don't want, you don't want these problems, but then I really didn't want the problems. But I really didn't want the problems, you know, for my friends, because I'm still around my guys, that's in the street. I still got street dudes around me. That's getting, you know, they riding big, they. You know they they heavy. So you know, I don't want to put nobody in jeopardy based on what I'm doing and what I'm getting caught up in. So that was kind of like really the beginning of the end of me, like just completely transitioning into letting my natural talents, my gift of interaction, my gift of how I deal with people, just me who I am as an individual, just started to take precedence over my life and became beneficial, and the more that happened, the less I had to cater to the street.
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Speaker 2:and talents because, like uh, connecting uh communication and um, just just being someone that that can develop. Obviously, relationships, those are, those are heavy skills the relationship, the networking, the relationship building and the relationship nurturing. Yeah, that's been me. I've been that. That's why I survived the streets, because I've always been loyal about all. I've always been genuine, I've always been trustworthy. So even when I was outside, even when I was doing wrong, I was doing right. You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Like I could be trusted, yeah with work you was in the wrong environment, but you were still yeah, I still had a moral compass. I was you know I'm saying I was. I was a guy who, if I was on your team, you was comfortable. You know what I'm saying. I was. I was a guy who, if I was on your team, you was comfortable. You knew. You knew he. You know you knew you dealing with somebody trustworthy. You knew you're dealing with somebody loyal. You know if you had to leave something with somebody, you can leave it with me. You know that's so the networking and the and and and and the moral compass. You know that always was me.
Speaker 2:17 years old is when I first got introduced to the entertainment business through a radio station internship. So I've always, from a young age, been around celebrities. I've always, since a young age, been been in, you know, uh, what we'll call the upper echelon rooms. I've been around people. So that then started. What wound up happening is, over the course of years and times, I built all of these relationships. So my music industry, entertainment industry relationships have been nurtured and nourished since I was 17 years old, up to now. Up to now.
Speaker 2:So, once social media came into play and then I started to share my life story, started to share my life perspective on social issues, social networks, and once I started sharing my input and my perspectives, people gravitating towards it. Now it's like who is this guy man, let me ask. So now I'm getting people asking me my advice on things. Now I'm getting people telling me yo man, what you said today really hit home with me. Now I'm getting women asking me I mean, I got a teenage son man, his father, not in his life. What advice could you give me? Then I got young dudes asking me for advice for themselves. So now who I am, what I've always been, has morphed into something beneficial to our culture. Yeah, and to answer your question, it was realized probably 2016 when I realized I'm on to something with this whole approach to how I engage on this social platform and it ultimately worked out into people understanding this guy's really authentic.
Speaker 2:He's not on the internet just saying what people want to hear because it sounds good for likes and views. Like when they see me on the internet, then it's like see me in real life. It's like, okay, that matches, it goes together. I've even had internet. Then it's like see me in real life, it's like, okay, that matches, it goes together. I've even had people and this was another this was another time that I really started to be like okay, I like how this is going. I had at that time it was like maybe three different people and it was so crazy.
Speaker 2:Three different people messaged me on three different occasions and basically said the same exact thing, which was I've been watching you for X amount of time. Each one shared how much time they had been watching. One was a couple of years, one was a few months and I think another was about a year or so. But each individual separately said I've been watching you. I never comment on your page. This all happened in the DM. I never commented on your page, but I've always watched you and I've waited to see when you was going to be inconsistent. You and I've waited to see when you was going to be inconsistent. I waited to see when you was going to say something a month ago and then say something different a month later. And I have to give you your respect you are one of the most consistent, accurate, authentic people that I've seen on this internet. And then more and more people started to say it over the course of time this internet, and then more and more people started to say it over a course of time and that's what started to make me feel good, because they were right. It's not that I was surprised. I was glad that it was happening that way, because you get on this internet, man, and I've I don't know how people do it. I've heard people say oh no, man, I just was doing that for the gram, like I don't even know how to just do it for the gram. Either it is or it ain't with me. You know what I'm saying. So that's how this was all able to come into fruition, even with the book.
Speaker 2:I did the book primarily because a lot of people didn't know my story. A lot of people didn't know how I got all this information. A lot of people didn't know why so many celebrities be with me and know me and I'm in these circles like. They see me on, they see me on social media, and then I'm in the DM talking to them, responding to them, you know, having conversations back and forth with them. And then tomorrow they see me with Floyd Mayweather. The day after that they see me at puff house. The day after that they see me at another party. They see me with tiana taylor, they like, and these are all my real friends. You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:So it's like I had a lady tell me one time. She said what I really like about you. She said we see you with celebrities. She said but every time I've sent you a dm you always respond. But anybody that know me know I do that I respond to all DMs. If somebody DM me I'm going to respond to them, you know. So that's how I created the alliance between me and the platform.
Speaker 2:You know it's not a this ego boast doing them big I's and little u's. And yeah, I'm like I didn't come to social media to become somebody. I was him already. I was outside already. Big eyes and little u's. And yeah, I'm this like I didn't come to social media to become somebody. I was him, yeah, already, I was outside already. I had a network. You know I was in the street, like people do me, like I didn't come to social media to build a persona, to try to fill a void that was in my life. I just happened to come on and and start to share and, like I said, the book gave people intel and insight. Okay, now I get it. He really been through something. That's really what it come down to. Man like I just utilized who I am and just for the sake of social media. Just, I guess Shabazz is me and the OG is the branding. You know what I'm saying, but you put it out there, though, consistently. You know what I'm saying and you are sharing a lot of value.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, that's important. Is there a strategy behind, like how you're putting the content out?
Speaker 1:Like what you're saying the cadence, the frequency, or is it?
Speaker 2:really like how you're feeling. No, it's just me like I don't. That's that's why it moves the way that it does, because I don't have to think about it. The only thing that, the only thing that comes into play in terms of questioning is what's going to be discussed, and I don't have to worry about that because people have grown to like my perspective on everything so much that they send me the content. Now I don't even have to research what's going on, like it's crazy, because I very rarely know what's going on on my timeline.
Speaker 2:You know which this is for a lot of people. So now you'll know that I don't always see your posts. I don't always see your posts. I'm not ignoring you, I'm not overlooking you. I still love you, you're still my folks but I don't always see what's on my timeline because I answer all my DMs and in my DM either people are having conversation with me or they're sending me content that they want to see me discuss. They want to see me discuss. Yeah, so I don't even have to like when it's popular topics. If it's a hot topic, I'm probably gonna have anywhere from 30 to 50 dm of that same topic, of people saying what do you have to say about this you understand I'm saying so. That consumes a lot of my time, so I don't even get to just like scroll the timeline and see what's going on, because I'm in that dm responding to people.
Speaker 2:Yeah one thing I wanted to uh touch on is like the last time that that, uh, we saw each other. Uh, we were talking about like opportunities, right, and then we also was talking about like it being an election year and there's a lot of distractions, right. So, um, being as 2024 right, we got the technology social media, access to all the information that's available.
Speaker 1:Right, and this is some information. Like we, you know, let's say us, we didn't have access to or we couldn't, you know, we couldn't learn certain things, but now we can go to google, we use chat, gbt, you know, saying you can get mentors a day out there. Right, you know, you know, I mean so like, or coaches or whatever.
Speaker 2:So like what do you feel?
Speaker 2:someone that's young, coming up, you know uh, ways that they can tap into certain opportunities here's what I tell people, because let's take into consideration everything that you just mentioned chat, gpt, google, uh, research, like all the information is out here, right, but a lot of people not researchers, a lot of people are not technology savvy, right? So I always implore people understand your inner workings, be self-aware, know what works for you. If you know, you learn better through conversation like this, find you somebody that know what you need to know and talk to them. Yeah, that that's actually a good one. That's a real good one, because what happens is this find yourself a smart friend. Find yourself a smart friend. Find somebody who knows what you want to know. They may be good at getting all the information and if they close enough to you and they care enough about you, they're going to share it with you so you'll be able to absorb it and learn it at your pace. You dig what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, too many people try to do what everyone else is doing and what happens is frustration settles in. You know, like I know a lot of people around me and you know I'm just meeting you You're one of them that know this financial game, know this trading, this real estate. You know, I was just laughing the other day it was yesterday I see a guy he on the Internet and he's talking about how he bought a. He booked a private jet trip on his American Express. Oh yeah, I seen that post. I saved the joint. Okay, see, stuff like that that make me dizzy. Yeah, I got you, you know, see, because I took the American Express and I paid for the jet with the American Express. But then I took them, I went and borrowed money against my life insurance policy at three point nine percent. And then what I did, when I took that money out of the shoebox, then I put it over there next in the underwear drawer next to my socks. And then when I took that back out of there at four point six percent, then I took that back to American Express. And then I came back and took my mom school shopping and then gave her 1.2%. But what I really did, I didn't pay my child support because I took the money from that and then I brought that back to American Express. And then that's how I got the private jet. And I'm like what did you just say, man? Did you have the money for the jet or didn't you? You know what I'm saying, but in that world. It makes sense For me. Do you got the money for the jet or not? You understand, but for some people that works.
Speaker 2:I keep people like that around me because what's going to happen is I'm transparent. All my friends know when they start talking like that. They know my favorite word, they know Shabazz. You know what Shabazz is going to say. You're talking Chinese, it's foreign to me, but what. They also know that if they see an opportunity for me, keeping in mind how I think they're going to bring it to me, I've arranged it where my friends know what to talk to me about, they know what to say to me, they know what to say and what not to say. That comes out of that world because I'm an expert at what I know and I'm even more of an expert of admitting what I don't know, and I'm cool with that.
Speaker 2:I'm cool with the lane that I'm in because the lane that I'm in is necessary. There's people who can talk me under the table when it comes to finances and real estate and percentages. They could talk me under the table, but they can't walk into a room full of 10 year olds, 12 year olds, 22 year olds or in a prison and relate to people like I can. They can't pay for this, this, what I got, this ain't on the market. You can't buy it and you can't sell it. Either they're going to take it from you or they're not. That's why I'm comfortable in my space, because what I do is valuable and it's necessary and it's unique and I'm cool with that. So I take who I am unique and I'm cool with that. So I take who I am right, and then I keep people like yourself and others around me who are faceted, multifaceted, in these other worlds that are also necessary. Bring them together and I bring them together. That's the smart way to do it, in my opinion.
Speaker 2:So so if I tell so, if I was to talk to a youngin back on the block, the first thing I'm gonna tell them to do understand yourself, your journey. What do you cut out? All the noise? Don't tell me what your friends is doing. Don't look at what somebody else has. Don't look at what somebody else is driving. What do you want? Like I had that cut.
Speaker 2:My son is 27. I talked to my son. He'll be 27 in june. I talked to him, I was talking to my son, and then he was on the phone for over two hours and he's a uh, he's a um, he's a credit processor. Okay, that's his job, right? So we're having a conversation about what? What else is there? I'm asking him, like, is there anything else after this for you? I can't tell you what a credit processor does or what the process look like. You probably know, yeah, right, but my son he like look, I think about other jobs, I think about other. You know him and his friends. They have a clothing line and that he has this. And then you know he said I've been thinking about, maybe you know, picking up another, you know, position that might give me another extra three, four thousand a month. He said, because this, this, what I have right here, is I will never lose this job. Basically, like this is a career that I will.
Speaker 1:I never have to lose, I never have to give this up because it's a position that's necessary for society and what's going on in banking and credit and all of those things. It's really the middle, it's the middle, Like.
Speaker 2:so, if I'm selling your product and you know you want the, product Right, you got to pay.
Speaker 1:So they process in the transaction and I'm eating on everything.
Speaker 2:I'm eating on everything. So he's in a space where he has a career path. He has what they call a stable work, a stable career path. You understand what I'm saying so. But when he talks, when I ask him, you know, is there anything to come, anything, anything next after that? You know he, he has his picks. He can say well, I can do this or I can do that, because his life is already stable. He just bought his first home. He has no children, he's single. You understand what I'm saying. He's 26 years old. The job that he has pays his bills. The job he has has created a, you know somewhat of a safe. You know he got a savings nugget.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying. So anything he does now is just adding to his savings. He cool you know what I mean, because his life is simplistic. He not worried about designer clothes and fast cars and a bunch of women and jewelry like that ain't his lifestyle, you know. He's comfortable in that space that he's in. So that's the part that I implore for the youngins you have to know what work for you. I don't care what no body is doing. My son is going to do exactly what he wants to do. I don't care what nobody got going on. Ok, when nobody else is wearing, everybody else can have on Gucci. Louis, my mother said. She said my poor grandson, she said I think some days he just go in his bedroom and open the drawer and just stick his hand in there in the dark and just put on the first thing he pull out. That's him, that's what works for him, and he don't care what nobody think and people don't understand how powerful that is. Nah, super powerful, like when you can live your life.
Speaker 2:People misconstrue. I don't care what nobody think about me. It's one thing not to care what nobody thinks about you when you're secure. We all care what people think of us. We don't want somebody to think something of us inaccurately. But if your thought of me is, I'm not wearing designer, I don't care about that. If your thought of me is I don't drive a Rolls Royce, I don't care about that. Now, if your thought of me is, and he's mean and I know I'm not mean I care about that. I don't want you to think of me that way. So, not caring what nobody think you know has its limitations.
Speaker 2:But for the most part, when I'm trying to talk to these young people, man or people that I'm advising or, you know, life coaching, I always implore people get in tune and in touch with who you are and what you want, because you may not want all of this other stuff. That these people got more money, more problems is real. That's not just a rat line, that's real. The more you have, the more things come with it More responsibility, more people need, need and if you love them, there's more help you're going to dispense. You know to whom much is given. Much is really required. So you have to really be mindful about is that the kind of life you want to live? And it's cool if you do, but if you don't, then don't. But you won't know unless you know yourself. Yeah, so that's why I tell people to start at know you.
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Speaker 2:You know what I mean, right? So, for instance, even if you're someone that doesn't not you, but if someone is like I don't really get financial literacy and you've been stuck on that for I don't know, let's say a decade or two.
Speaker 1:The information has always been there, you know, what I'm saying Now.
Speaker 2:You've been stuck on it for 10, 20 years so it's keeping you at a certain level, if you realize you know what.
Speaker 1:I need to get this because I'm capped, or I need to get this because it's preventing me from providing for my family, or I need to get this because my credit has been, you know, at a standstill for a minute, or I can't access certain things because I just don't know this information. But your ability to access that, like you said, either getting around smart friends or you just like you know what I'm going to just sit down and I'm going to learn this information because it's holding me back in my life or whatever situation, but it's always been there.
Speaker 2:That's just that self-awareness. And so again, self-awareness, like you said, is important. I'm self-aware, as intelligent as I am, as articulate as I am, as interactive with people as I am. I know me. I've never been a researcher. I've never been an avid book reader, Never, even in school.
Speaker 2:I think I graduated from high school. I've never been to college. I graduated from high school with a C plus average, maybe right. I think I was right there with you. I think I had like a 2.3. Yeah, I think it was like a C Somewhere. It was a C something. It wasn't a B, because that just would have I would have felt like I was valedictorian. So I know it wasn't a B, it was a C something. It wasn't a D. I think I graduated somewhere in the Cs, but that never. That it's somewhere in the seas, but that never. That never defined me.
Speaker 2:You understand me. Like even now, I'm okay, I'm cool with what I don't know, not that I don't want to know, not that I won't know, not that I'm not willing to learn, but if I don't know something, somebody can't make me feel inadequate about that. You understand what I'm saying. You know I'm certain things. I know I'm not going to research. I'm certain things I'm not going to get into because it's not something that I've ever been good at, so certain that's why I keep an array of people around me. I got somebody that's a credit expert. I have somebody who's a trading expert. I have somebody that's a credit expert. I have somebody who's a trading expert. I have somebody who's a real estate like. There is nothing that pays money in this world, practically that I don't have somebody around me that's doing it. You understand what I'm saying and that's by design.
Speaker 2:Again, again, because I know what I don't know. But all of these people that's around me who you think they call when they got problems, you know I'm the one they call when things not going right in those worlds that they get, because what I talk about, what I do, is so universal it's not prejudice to the. You don't have to be in the street. You know I met, I met. I met a gentleman named Randy Nordstrom who he does seminars and and and and and speak and engage with with with a group of lawyers, speaking engagement with uh, with a with a group of lawyers. I met him, uh, at floyd's birthday party a couple weeks ago and you know people were telling him about me and you know that's your bad the og and they're telling him what I do and he's like, wow, like this guy sounds like somebody that fits into the mold of what I'm doing, because I need someone to speak to these lawyers in a motivating setting. Who's not a lawyer? Yeah, no, of course. Yeah, you understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:I'm somebody who needed a lawyer. I'm not one. I needed one. Yeah, so when it comes to motivating people, or giving people advice, or recognizing, identifying with what a person is going through, whether you notice it or whether they come to you and ask you who I am and what I do is not limited to the hood or to the cool guys, or to the streets, or to hip or to the culture, like, no, anybody can get this work universally. Anybody can get this work because I don't have to talk.
Speaker 2:Sweet talk, now I could just come straight into. So let's talk about how you feel like I can get in my real therapist bag, and I never been to a college other than to speak to the students. You know, because I've spoken at colleges and universities, you know, and those are my only times in those settings is when I went to speak. So that's why I'm OK with what I do, man, because what I do, there's people whose world I do not understand, but you can't pay them to do what I do. How do you tell? How do you tap into the source? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:So where do you go to get into your frequency, get into your energy, get into your bag, obviously, so you can pour out that value and pour out that information for other people.
Speaker 2:What's that look like for you? I learned to like we was talking earlier. I learned to stay home. I learned to spend a lot of time with myself. Um, you know, being Muslim, I pray a lot. You know I read. I do read Quran a lot, like I read. I read my Quran more than that's the most read book that I, that I, uh, that I own.
Speaker 2:So, for me, the religion is a constant reminder to me for what's important. You understand what I'm saying. I ran the streets and I tore the clubs up and then been a lot of places, seen a lot of things. So at this age now, you know, having lived the life that I've lived and still continuing to live, I've tapped into what's important. And what's important now is not how much I get, but how much I give, how much you give. So that's that's why I am in life right now. But how much I give, how much you give, yeah, so that's why I am in life right now.
Speaker 2:It's not, you know, somebody could give me $100 million tomorrow. I'm almost certain at least half of it is going to go towards other people. You understand what I'm saying because I've learned that life is for me as long as there's comfortability, not worrying about bills, not worrying about what you have to pay. If I wake up every day and support my lifestyle and I'm not talking about having a bunch of cars and a bunch of private jet, like I'm not even talking about that because that's not even my desire, you know, do I like cars? Yes, but do I need a fleet?
Speaker 2:No, I'm not in that mind set. You know, that's not my frame of mind. I I care more about like what? What can I do to to to better this society that we live in? That's in complete shambles. You understand what I'm saying. Like how much can I give versus how much I can take. That's what I'm on. So what would be like one or two things that you feel like could really change this society that we're in? That's in obviously shambles? Like what are like one or two things you would like to see More accountability.
Speaker 1:We ain't got that in America, bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what we need. That's what we need. I mean, like I don't think people understand how integral accountability is. Because, if you think about it, if everybody woke up tomorrow personally, if everybody woke up and personally was the change that they say they want to see in this world, if they became the change that they say they want to see, if they became everything that they tell everybody else to do, if they became that, we change automatically.
Speaker 2:People look for solutions to problems in this world everywhere except in the mirror. I'm one of those people. I've conquered the mirror. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Bro. If I gotta apologize, I'm apologizing. If I gotta say I was wrong, I was wrong, that's it. I'm not gonna run around telling everybody else what they need to do, even when I talk to people. I don't talk to people like that Because we all have a responsibility of being better tomorrow than we was yesterday. That's just how it is. But not enough people want to do that. Man. People are offended if you don't see things the way that they do. People are angry if y'all don't agree and then it turns into disrespect.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Now it's a fact and it's unfortunate, especially amongst us as black people. We are so mean to each other, bro. We are so mean to one another, and it could be something as simple as you like Donald Trump and I like Joe Biden. Guess what? We both liking something wrong. We both are liking something that could be potentially detrimental, but I don't have a right to disrespect you for your choice. Your choice is your choice for your reasons. You understand what I'm saying. People argue I watch people argue With each other on social media About perspective and opinion. Neither one is right. Opinions are not right. Perspective is not right or wrong. It's how you see something. Yeah, it's your view, your vantage. But if you were smart, if I disagree with Brendan, brendan disagree with me. But we can say. You know what, bro? Respectfully, we're going to agree to disagree, but I might have took something out of your perspective.
Speaker 1:Yeah, or or it might.
Speaker 2:it may have motivated you, or or myself, to do the research, do the research or get more information, get more insight.
Speaker 2:Having different perspectives is not a bad thing. Yeah, it's a lesson, it's teachings within that parameter. But people, so many people, feel Incapacitated and unworthy. So too many people don't feel like they matter. I tell people this all the time. With social media, one thing I don't like, and I'll tell you all this do not message me and tell me Shabazz, I want you to post this and people need to hear your voice because your voice is stronger than mine. Do not say that, because if you don't use your voice, you don't know how strong it can be.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's one of the reasons why I share like.
Speaker 2:I got this strategy called the 5-2-W right, and it's one part.
Speaker 1:What is?
Speaker 2:it 5-2-W, okay, 5-2-w. So it's one podcast a week for 52. That's 5-2-W. It's like 52nd Street in West Philly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there you go. I guess I remember that.
Speaker 2:That's where I'm from. 5-2. You dig, but go ahead. 5-2-w. So that's one podcast a week for 52 weeks.
Speaker 1:So whether you're someone that's looking to get their message out there if you do 30 minutes a week, you say you want to get your brand out there. You say you want to connect with people, right, 30 minutes a week you talking about your, your brand and your business in front of different audiences, right by the end of the year that's 52 different audiences.
Speaker 2:That's going 24 7 with your message.
Speaker 1:Somebody heard you right now if you're to your point, if you're someone right who's like yo shabazz, can you say it because your, your voice is more impactful. If you want to get your voice more impactful, you could do the exact same thing, right. You could literally go on one platform, right, even if it's, even if it's instagram live or something consistency one platform a week at the minimum.
Speaker 1:You're gonna be a better speaker. Your message is gonna be tight. You're gonna be more confident you might end up getting booked. You're definitely going to sell some stuff, right. You know, what I'm saying. And if we're going to get a little bit crazy, you can do two a week. Now we're talking about two hours a time. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:That's 104 different platforms. Now imagine being on social media every single day, multiple times a day, posting for six years straight. Yeah, facts, that's what I did Three of those six years. Every single night, at eight o'clock, I was Instagram live. Yeah, but that's 1% behavior, bro.
Speaker 1:Now the funny thing is this what you're talking about, everyone can do that.
Speaker 2:Of course. But everyone won't do that. You know why they won't do it. You know why Instant gratification, not instant gratification. They're not doing it organically, they're doing it for the end goal. Somebody told them if you do what you just said, in the end you can have this. So, in all actuality, they want the result. They don't want the process. Yeah, they don't want the process. See me, this does not work for me. I really do what I do because this is who I am, this is what I choose to do, this is what I want to do, this is what I choose to do, this is what I want to do, this is what I enjoy doing. That's why they say, if you enjoying, if you enjoy doing it, it's not work. Yeah, you know, I'm saying so a lot of people. They get excited, they get hype because they thinking about the outcome. Then when they realize, damn, I gotta go live once a week, I gotta go live. I gotta go live once a week. I got to go live twice a week I got to go live daily.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I got to go live every day. They won't last, because it's not really in them, it's just on them, because most people now we're trying to figure out how can I get it quick? I saw this dude yesterday. He had four chains on. He had a Lamborghini Urus Excuse me, he was in the penthouse. How do I get that by tomorrow? Facts how can I get that by Friday? And it's Thursday? Yeah, how do I get that? Not next Friday? Tomorrow? Yeah, facts. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:So they don't want to put the work in. They wouldn't even know what to do with it. Though, even if they got all that Because they think they can cheat the process I don't care who you are, where you are, it still take 10 years to become an overnight success. You've got to put and I'm not saying it's going to take 10 years before you become successful but even if you started something this year Right and you made a million dollars in it by next year, if you want to be great at it, you still got to keep going. So by the time you hit your 10 year mark, what is that million going to look like, if this is really what you want?
Speaker 2:This is why I tell people what I said a little while ago Tap into who you are and what you want. Like who are you? Because if you tap into who you are and what you like, oh man, the sky's the limit. You're never going to give it up, you're never going to stop doing it. If you tap into who you are and know yourself and know what you want, the ambition of what you're trying to be is going to be easy for you, man. But too many people want to be what everybody else is. Everybody think that somebody else's level of success, that their level of success, has to equal to what somebody else's is.
Speaker 1:But I think some of that is because there's no stability at the crib. Bro, mom and dad ain't together. Maybe it's, maybe it's a single parent. That parent might not have the wisdom or being in the in the proper group to have the support for their friends. You know, I'm saying maybe they're not home because they gotta do two or three jobs. So I mean, it's almost like a cycle for us.
Speaker 2:I feel like you know, like, like you know I'm 43.
Speaker 1:I was younger. I didn't have a stable home situation, right, my mom, she used to take me to crack houses, you know what I'm saying. I used to see her shoot up and do all types of crazy stuff, you know what I'm saying. But she died when she was in her early 30s. My dad and I was what I was 15 when she passed away. My dad passed away when I was 12. He was in the streets, so neither parent was there for me. Right, my grandmother raised me. Right, she legally became my guardian, but she died too when I was 16 because lung cancer. Back then, everybody was smoking, you know. So I didn't have the support to figure this shit out. I think I just seemed like I had the. I had the visual reminders, or or the visual examples, which, which I was like I ain't doing that because I see the results. Like I, I essentially picked up on okay, mom did that, that's what happened.
Speaker 1:Dad did that you know they all died, so we come, we come from a uh where, if it's a slavery, if it's racism, if it's classism, whatever the case may be, we ain't coming together to your point earlier. So because we're not coming together, it's just perpetual, like even in music right now. The number one music in the world has always been well, since it's been out, it's hip-hop, right, right, but hip-hop now sounds like death music, bro, sounds negative, low frequency for the most part.
Speaker 1:I can't even listen to the joint, no more. Right, you know what I mean. But what is that doing? It's planting seeds. It's really parenting the youth coming up? No, it really. Is it the youth coming up?
Speaker 2:No, it really is. It really is. But I'm going to rewind for a second back to what you just said, what you just described in terms of duality in the household, with parents lacking and being missing. Right, your mother, your father, your grandmother, all the stewards in your young life transitioned right. Look where you are. You're not a product of it, because your will, you had the will. Despite that's what's missing as well the will. We know what slavery did. We know what slavery created. Do you still have the will, despite that? Too many people don't have the will. Too many people want the excuse. Too many people want to be pacified. We can never deny or negate what slavery has done to us as black people. Yeah, you can't, but life has also lasted long enough. Like we were talking about earlier research, google, technology, opportunities, opportunities there's so many things now at our disposal if you carry the will so that's it right there.
Speaker 2:I'm never to say what the white man didn't let me do. I'm never going to say Well, my mom, my dad, wasn't in the house with me, so I didn't. I'm never, ever saying that, even if it carries validity, because life has lasted long enough For me to tap into what's right, what's wrong, what I want, what I don't want, what works, what doesn't work, what opportunity looks like, what danger looks like. These are all conscious decisions that you make. Now, granted, there's going to be another of individuals who doesn't have the bandwidth or the wherewithal that a me or you or many others may have. So, yeah, some are affected by it, others may have. So, yeah, some are affected by it, but that's the ecosystem, right, it's going to always be an imbalance somewhere, but ultimately, for the most part, even as it comes down to the music.
Speaker 2:This is why I tell people don't talk to me about the music if you're not talking to me about parenting first. First, the parenting supersedes the music, because when we were young, even in dysfunctional households, even in abusive households, there was abuse in a lot of situations was nothing but oversaturated authority, which means if your mother said you didn't listen to this music in her house and you go spending that over Janice's house this weekend. Janice knew not to let you listen to the music that your mother didn't let you listen to. There was continuity in the parenting. There was continuity in the guardianship. Yeah, I think I remember something like that.
Speaker 1:When I was a kid I went to like a friend's crib.
Speaker 2:Yeah, whatever you can't do at home, you can't go do on the road. That's how it was. Even in the dysfunction there was order. There's no more order now, or lack thereof in a lot of cases. A lot of cases, there's no order.
Speaker 2:People have gotten lazy parentally. Parental laziness has settled in. So now, instead of going above and beyond to make sure your daughter or your son don't listen to the music you don't want them to listen to, you get tired of talking about it and then you like it yourself. So now you just plant it in the car while they in the car with you, and now it's too late. And then when people start to say, oh, it's the music, it's the music, it's the music, it's easy to blame the rapper now, instead of saying you know what, as a parent, I could be doing better. Nobody want to say that. Back to accountability. It's easy to blame somebody else for your child's misfortune, when, in all actuality, the first place of consultation should be the mirror. Like I tell people, more of us need to adopt the process or in the habit of having what I call personal staff means. Yeah, I rock with that yeah, I have them all the time.
Speaker 2:I'm the the board, I'm the employee. I haven't had myself audits. I call them personal staff meetings, man. I have them all the time. It's just like running a big corporation. I'm the corporation. Don't nothing around me operate the way it's supposed to If my dynamic and my structure is incomplete, so it's all about getting into yourself. People don't do it, though, man. That's what all the problems? That's where the problem solving starts With you. Bro, you hit on a bunch of stuff right there, bro. Just overall I'm hot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all neck. Yeah, you're hitting on a bunch of stuff.
Speaker 1:Hey, listen, if you're looking to grow your podcast business or you're looking to leverage podcasts to grow your business, you want to tap in to the Podcast to Profits Academy. We're going to teach you exactly what it takes for you to get more exposure, to grow and scale your business or leverage podcasts so you can do more revenue. What you want to do is head over to podcasttoprofitscom and apply to work with me and a member of my team. I want to wrap up with this, though, so like let's say, we got to well, I mean a couple things also.
Speaker 2:We got to make sure that we touch on, because I know you got some projects coming out too.
Speaker 1:But if someone is going to like, let's say, let's say, pass the OG Academy, you know what I'm saying? And there's like three principles they got to leave with.
Speaker 2:They can't graduate unless they get these principles you know like, instilled inside of them. What would they be? I'll give you one better. I already have them. But it's not three, it's six. Let's get all six.
Speaker 2:It's called the Six Steps to how to Flip your Life. It's in the book. Well, the book is called Flip your Life. The six steps are not in there. Yeah, all right, but the six steps is something that I came up with after, after the book. Lord, hand me one of those phones, please. So, so, the six steps to how to flip your life. So what I did, I took the.
Speaker 2:You know the adjectives who, what, where, when, why and how. Who, what, when, where, when, why and how, who, what, when, where, why, how, gotcha. So the six steps to how to flip your life is who's responsible for flipping your life? What are you flipping your life for? Where do you begin to flip your life? Why are all of these things essential to flipping your life? And then, how do you start to flip your life? Who, what, where, when, why and how? Right, so each one of those are Are talking points, and in those talking points we talk about everything from accountability to strategy, proper preparation, procrastination of preparation, procrastination, like all of these things are what these six steps encompass. So when I go to a, if I go like when I was in the, when I was in the uh, when I was in Baltimore at the Baltimore Juvenile Detention Center, I put these six steps detention center, I put these six steps, you know, on the easel and I discussed those six points and it resonated with them. It resonated with the administration.
Speaker 2:So when I discuss who, we're discussing accountability. When I discuss what, we're discussing goals and ambitions. When I discuss where we're talking about proper planning and awareness, when I discuss when do you start to flip your life, we're talking about the perils of procrastination or moving too fast. When you discuss why, we're talking about the outcomes and results of actions. And when I discuss how, we discuss an execution and strategy. So each one of these is a different talking point, but it keep you well-rounded if you know how to incorporate them each step into your life. So what I would do is if I had to give somebody something to walk with like this. I'm in the process of this becoming a curriculum. That's what I'm working on for this to be a pamphlet, for this to be a curriculum, because if you really take accountability, goals and ambitions, proper planning and awareness um knowing the perils of procrastination, knowing the outcomes and results of your actions and execution and strategy. If you can implement all of it in your life effectively, you're unstoppable, would you?
Speaker 1:say would you say those are more multiple? So we said would would those be multiple choice, where it's like if somebody goes through it everyone can kind of answer the same questions, or would it be more short form where people write in their individual responses.
Speaker 2:Well, what's going to happen is this is going to go towards you as an individual.
Speaker 1:So I guess what I'm asking is could it be almost like a questionnaire?
Speaker 2:and they get a certain response at the end yeah, because your response is going to be different from his. Yeah, okay, he's going to be different from his because it's all going to be about when. When I say who is responsible for flipping your life and I talk about accountability, what you need to be accountable for, it's going to be different, maybe something different from what he got to be accountable for, but it's still accountability.
Speaker 2:Outcomes, goals and ambitions, outcomes and results of actions. Everything that's in here, you internalize it. This is not universal. This is all intentional to each individual. This is not universal. This is not something that you look at and everybody does this the same way. You walk away as a whole person. No, take these six steps and apply them to your life individually for your own personal result. Everybody's going to change for the better as an individual, but for collective, for collective, yeah, for a collective change. That's what this is about. I'm wrong. I'm rocking with that, bro.
Speaker 2:I'm rock with that You're good for a C average graduate, man. I'm right there with y'all. So, like I probably like a 2.3 myself, bro. Yeah, man, I mean, you know, life gonna teach you what a classroom didn't and, at the end of the day, like life going to teach you what a classroom didn't yeah?
Speaker 1:and at the end of the day, like them, grades ain't helping you in the real world. It don't matter what you got, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Those ain't real world. You can't apply that to the real world. That's why you have people who, again, never finished school, Some people dropped out in high school. They're multimillionaires. They're living their life 100%, they're living their. I mean they multimillionaires. They live in the life A hundred percent. They live in the life because, again, life is really based on what's meant for you, first and foremost. That's another thing people have to tap into understanding your journey and what's meant for you. I don't care what it is, I don't care who you are. If it's not meant for you, you will never get it. If it is meant for you, nobody can stop it, slow it down, hinder it, disrupt it. It's coming. All you have to do is your part of going towards it. But if it's meant for you, it's yours. You just have to take the necessary steps to claim it. So let everybody know what you got going on, man, because I know you got it.
Speaker 1:Last time you told me when we spoke you have some projects coming out. Right, you got a network.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. Right now, the biggest, the biggest project is the TMT Digital Network, which is TMT Digital.
Speaker 2:TMT Digital, named after this. On this hat of mine, on this hat of mine. The TMT Digital Network is a network that I started with my business partner, maria Beniquez, and one of my other partners is my man, james McNair P Rilla, the vice president of Mayweather Promotions. So, you know, through my friendship with Floyd, I was able to garnish the ability to utilize the brand, you know, to my advantage. So you know, I'm trusted with the brand. So anything that I'm doing that I want to attach the brand to, you know I'm at liberty to do that. So what I decided to do back in 2017, I came up with the idea to start the TMT Digital Network. In 2017, I came up with the idea to start the TMT digital network, which is gonna, which is gonna be a subscription based platform. Well, content can live my content, your content, other people's content, you want to. You're looking for somewhere to put your content for subscription base, just like a Hulu or Netflix or so on and so forth. It's a black owned, minority owned business that caters to our culture, but also giving us a place for this content to live Within the midst of what we're watching today.
Speaker 2:So much negativity is almost like you can't be on TV if you're not doing something crazy, or you can't have music out unless you're doing something violent or sexual or it's just. Everything is like one dimensional now. So what we, what we're doing with TMT Digital, is offering a space for creators to feel comfortable. If what you have is positive, it doesn't have to be dark, doesn't have to be dirty, doesn't have to be dingy Like it can be illuminated, it could be positive, you know, because people are not rewarded for positivity, no more. That's why we're seeing so much negativity, because that's what's being rewarded the goofier you are, the bigger the check is nowadays, and it's unfortunate, and this is why we're losing so many young creators, because everybody not gangsters, everybody not fighters, everybody not disrespectful but they're looking at all of this going on around them.
Speaker 2:It's like man. Well, this is what I got to do if I want to be successful. So people are compromising themselves. So TMT Digital Network is just going to be a space or a place and a platform where you don't have to compromise. We're welcoming positive input and positive content. Right now, the network is still being put together, but tmtdigitalnetworkcom is where my podcast Flip your Life is. Right now. I have 10 episodes there Getting ready to start shooting.
Speaker 1:You know my second season, let's go season two. Yeah, you know my second season, let's go season two, yeah, you know, so I got. Let's go season two.
Speaker 2:I got 10 episodes in on Flip your Life and you can find it, you know, again on the TMT digital network. So I'm working actively on that in the process of putting together a conference this summer. You know it'll be the first, first annual, something that I want to do annually. You know, in terms of some things I want to contribute to the culture in society. I don't want to talk too much about it, yeah, because we're in the beginning stages of it and I'm one of those people I don't really like to talk about much about what I'm about to do. I rather talk about what I'm doing or what I've done, and once I get further along in the planning of it I'll speak more about that. But, um, yeah, the podcast, the book, the book is available on badz, the ogcom, not Shabazz, just Badz, b-a-z-z and I got the book.
Speaker 2:I feel like I think I told, I think I told Shabazz that, like I, I think I told some guys that, like I feel like books are probably the best thing that you can do to support somebody. You know what I'm saying. It's like you meet somebody and pass it off the rip. If they got a book, I think you should just cop the book. Yeah, please get the book. You know, I done told y'all, y'all done heard my life story.
Speaker 1:I've been outside the link. Don't be below.
Speaker 2:You know I done played in the street and I risked my life and my freedom. I'm 55 now. I just want to live easy and be cool. I was laughing. I think I told Lauren like six books a day, y'all, just six. All I need to do is sell six books a day. My bills is paid. I ain't asking nobody for nothing. I'm cool. Six books a day, that's all I want. If y'all can help me sell six books a day, are you doing the ads on this? By the way, those are Lauren questions. If the book ain't selling, it's Lauren's fault.
Speaker 1:Yeah, lauren talk about that you see how I did that.
Speaker 2:I wrote the book. Now I can't write it and sell it. Somebody got to sell it. I was good at other things, but there's marketing and the ads and just like you bring these people around who know how to do these things, I just did the math on how many need to get sold. That was my job, yeah, gotcha. Now Lauren, you know, sells six books a day.
Speaker 1:Yo, so during the podcast.
Speaker 2:I was just thinking as we're having a conversation, because I be thinking while I be talking, as you should. So I feel some money coming on. I feel it. You got the summit popping off that you're going to put together Right for sure, absolutely, you got these books Right. Right, you speak Absolutely. You know what I mean. You give a lot of value, you change a lot of lives. Come on, d, you're warming me up. I can see the dollar signs Come on.
Speaker 2:Spit it out. I got a tour. I got a tour. I'm putting together. Ok, I got a tour.
Speaker 1:It's called an audience growth tour.
Speaker 2:Audience growth tour.
Speaker 1:Audiencegrowftourcom.
Speaker 2:OK, you know what I'm saying. It's a hybrid. So basically, what it entails is one day is a workshop. Okay, you know I'm saying where? Um, you know we're teaching, giving value, you know, making sure people getting getting the information that that we have planned for them.
Speaker 1:Um the next day is a private networking live podcast type of vibe okay like pretty much what we got going on here, shout out to everybody here. That's live. You know, I'm saying they're here too, right, it's like that. So. So let's say it would be me, or I would feature a guest host and they would do an interview and then people that you know take advantage of that option, get to come partake in the live and then ask questions with the, you know, with the guests.
Speaker 2:Super dope content and then the next.
Speaker 1:You know, we have a bonus day for certain people. It would be like a content day. So what I'm saying is maybe you want to come on the tour.
Speaker 2:It would be. It would be potentially you myself. And then there's two other individuals that I connect with pretty often, that are friends and clients of mine, that I'm going to slot for the tour. Amen, I told you it was one, it's 12 cities. Okay, for six months Okay.
Speaker 1:It's basically two spots a month. Two spots a month. Okay, two spots a month, and then he sells tickets on front end and then we got a nice little package on the back end and then we record everything. I'll probably bring my guy to me. You know what I'm saying. He can be in charge of all of the content.
Speaker 2:I'm talking about the Energizer Bunny. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying. The Energizer Bunny, Yo yo, he got a song.
Speaker 1:It's called 100 Push-Ups. Yo, it's crazy.
Speaker 2:Listen like if you can't do 100 Push-Ups by the time he finished with you, you will. No facts, facts, so so.
Speaker 1:So what I'm saying is you should join me on tour, bro, ah.
Speaker 2:Invitation accepted.
Speaker 1:So, Lord, Lord, you got work to do Invitation?
Speaker 2:see, I knew, see, I could tell you, you know how, on the cartoons, when they got the baseball and they winding the arm up real fast, like I knew the pitch was coming, yeah, but I knew it was a dollar sign at the end of it. I'm with all of that. Yeah, I'm with that because, yeah, that's what's important now bro what's important to me is.
Speaker 2:What's important to me is that the the if you talked earlier about branding, shabazz, the og, the brand right, the brand is established and that's what I'm grateful for. I'm grateful that the brand has been established and I don't have to rely on um instagram anymore, because it's got really weird over there like this. We're no, it's no, what? Listen to what I'm about to say, since this is what march? Since august, since august, laura, you, I have not gained one follower. My following has been stuck on two hundred and eight thousand. So you've been shadow banned. I've been shadow banned, but it's too late. The impact has already happened. You understand what I'm saying. It has happened. I'm already outside, I'm already in the community. People already know me, people already know the brand. People already stopped me in the airport, on the street, take pictures. Oh, I love what you do. It's done. So now, when things like this take place, you know, when you invite me to a situation like this, what has happened is the people who needed to see me have seen me and have gotten familiar with the impact of the brand and what I'm doing, and now we're taking it to new heights and new levels. Like, I don't, I'm out, and then, with the TMT Digital Network we put in, I'm putting myself in a position where we have our own network. So you want to find me and what I do and how I do it, going over there to something that I own. You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Because these people, they're playing with people money, they're playing with people livelihood. They don't want you to give good game, they don't want you to give the truth, they don't want you to help people. It's almost like as long as you you keeping people in the dark with bad information and silliness, you can have a million followers. But the minute you start talking about something that's going to keep people on the courts, you shadow, ban, you blocked, you know your content is being taken down. You receive an all-connor warning and all I did was tell people hey, eat healthy exercise. And you took the post down and then replaced it with people fighting in the street, stomping each other's face in the concrete. It's wild to me. So I appreciate the opportunity, I appreciate the invitation, because this is the stuff that means something to me, because once you can transition from these devices and really be outside feet on concrete, that's when you're making a real difference so invitation accepted.
Speaker 2:Let me know when. And it's up. Yeah man, let's go crazy. Man bro, I appreciate you, I appreciate you likewise, I appreciate you keeping your word. You know being a has been dope man. You know being a solid individual. You know from the day we met, you know the conversation was contagious. You know got to put me with your guy to get that blood work done. Oh yeah, you know.
Speaker 1:Shout out to my guy Carlton Listen, bro. Forever Young Miami. Probably either the full out of the one or I went to the one in.
Speaker 2:Boca just scheduling, but full out of them might be the closest Full out of them is closest, but you definitely got to tap into him. Yeah, no, for sure, super cool dude, for sure as well, you know.
Speaker 1:I—. We was actually talking about that on an earlier podcast.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So you know, when you said that to me, you know that was something that set my antennas and my radar up. So I'm definitely looking forward to that, man and again, I just I just appreciate the interaction, the brotherhood, the respect. You know, um, all the things that you've accomplished and continue to accomplish, and you know putting people in position. That's another thing that you know that we have to continue to do as, as as um, as indigenous people and as as indigenous men. You know, especially the men.
Speaker 2:You know we're the leaders, we're the providers, we're the protectors. We got to do a much better job at forming these alliances with one another and building camaraderies, man, so we can protect our women, protect our communities, protect our kids and really stand on that principle of what being a man really is, which is not being afraid to see another man shine, not being afraid of another man, having more than you, being comfortable in your own skin and being able to unite and tell somebody else hey, I got an opportunity for you, brother, what's up you with it? Yeah, let's get it. That's what it's about.
Speaker 1:So I appreciate you, yes sir, Listen y'all for another episode of the Honor Pursuit podcast. Make sure you tap in with your Baz the OG, Grab the book. I did so. You should, too, Flip your life when they got to go to to get it.
Speaker 2:Six a day is all I need. Go to baztheogcom, b-a-z-z-t-h-e-o-gcom. Six a day and y'all will keep me satisfied. Yo, six a day, y'all we out.